Originally Posted by szopin

Nokia is still connecting people amazingly enough, most don't see it/experience it, but the fact they moved from consumer products to network seems to work out for them. Leave the consumer space to the mega-corps, they have the budget to choke us all with ads of their super products (some claim apple won with browser experience, seriously doubt it, they won with billions in marketing, since the ipod times, you don't grow a hipster fanbase that high with just a product/experience, but then there is this: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/04/24/...wser-engineer/

Apparently Apple was just (feeling like) a startup then)

Originally Posted by Dave999

Apple might not won the browser experiance, but they Are defenitly in the lead.

Edit text - very good
Copy and paste - very good
Switching browser tabs in landscape - very good
Video in direcly - very good
No Split screen for iPhone plus - very bad
Options to change stuff - very bad

I don't like the iOS but would love to have the browser experience on my androids, Windows, Jolla and Ubuntu.

Jollas OS is nicer but their browsers is beyond bad.

Originally Posted by szopin

Dave you're a collector, pull out your iPhone 1.0 and run its browser vs any nokia N series from the time, was it really the thing?

Originally Posted by Dave999

Doesn't have first iPhone since I was into the n series and didn't have the same budget for tech as I have today. It was more one phone per year back then.

Originally Posted by mikecomputing

All accessories except this:

http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-acce...a-origami.html

Is now out of stock. also Angry Stella out of stock.

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That was not the case some weeks ago. Either some fans has bought some Jolla stuff lately or Jolla decide to give them to employers as some payment....

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Originally Posted by szopin

Nokia now is just a guy with a fat (for now) wallet, no factories, no manufacturing abilities, to get back in business they would need huge investment (or to rely on indian/chinese manufacturers), might as well just slap a Nokia logo on generic android device to see if people still remember (which they will probably quickly learn to forget with chinese quality of produce and generic android with z-launcher stickied on top), R&D costs a lot (in a way, Jolla could help them with that, but risky, when you need to open/rebuy factories of your own to bring back european quality and margins are so low), safer bet to sell tires again (or stick to network services or whatevs, CEO who got there after all those gamblers can stay for a while with no risk this way)

Originally Posted by att

Jolla or actually SailfishOS would nicely fit to Nokia Technologies group as licensed product for other companies and it would be quite cheap to finance compared to some other projects but I don't believe Nokia would do that because their experience with Microsoft and Microsoft's inability to license its OS to other companies without massive financial aid.

Originally Posted by Dave999

My point is that Jolla messed up/ignored the fact that the had a budget much higher than what they asked for...why didnt they Mange to produce more tablets.

Also wonder why the project did several screen changes when they were short to n money? The old screens didn't work at all?

Originally Posted by szopin

Scale has everything to do with it if you want investment money, or you could do Mer with community UI, go bother them they are too small and too slow for your liking