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Originally Posted by segaen
says harold...
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Not gunna happen
Again this is marketing what Nokia should do is kick out MrFlop and CO and continue with Maemo+Qt .
Elop's convinced in the brand power/loyalty that's already built-up around Android/iOS. Mainly because a large % of users buy X no. of apps /yr, & subscribe to various services etc.
And he thinks WP's in a better position than Meego to do the same, despite having a tiny market-share now.
Originally Posted by BwackNinja
Actually hardware's there for RX, but apparently not for TX (no antenna that is)...
and the radio transmitter/receiver which didn't get any love though hardware or software. Neither of these are dealbreakers for me
Some excellent points elsewhere, but have to disagree with you & mike on the following:
What bothers me a lot is the fact that far too many people are talking about Alien Dalvik as though its some kind of savior to the platform. Its not. In fact, it should never touch the device as anything more than an interesting tech demo. Nokia said that they didn't want to go with Android just to be "pissing their pants to keep warm." They have their own ecosystem around their devices, going Google would only hurt them. This phone already has a Maemo/Meego personality disorder, I don't want people to be calling it an Android phone just because it would be easier than explaining Alien Dalvik to them. This is the first Meego phone (read: Meego compatible). For better or worse, it will define the platform. If Nokia wanted to make a custom interface for Android, they could've and it would've taken them a lot less time to get it to the market. But there would be far less brand loyalty.
It'd be a phased thing, that could ultimately be removed (if elgoog hasn't already blocked it by then), cept for the more "technically inclined" folks
I don't want the platform to be described as "just like Android" or worse, categorized as a flavor of Android.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Isn't AD some kind of compiler for android based code?
That's not how Alien works, every Android app looks/feels just like a native app, & runs @native speed etc.
In that case, given that devs would have to recompile targeting Harmattan, and most likely pay a licence fee to dalvik, the n9 would only have a fraction of the apps of the android store (a bit like the N900 has so many of the symbian Qt apps from the ovi store, that are also only a compile away)?
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here's some clues I cant decipher but maybe you guys can.
In the ballerina video when she swipes her leg pause it there is some jumbled up letters in bottom right corner of the wall what look like a signature.
in the next scene when she picks the N9 off the window ledge there is letters carved in the wooden ledge what are hard to see, letters in top Left look like BGR and theres a J in middle of screen with maybe other below.
In the ballerina video when she swipes her leg pause it there is some jumbled up letters in bottom right corner of the wall what look like a signature.
in the next scene when she picks the N9 off the window ledge there is letters carved in the wooden ledge what are hard to see, letters in top Left look like BGR and theres a J in middle of screen with maybe other below.
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DO THE HARMATTAN CELEBRATION DANCE
Ag-a-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, shake the tree
Aga-doo-doo-doo, push pineapple, grind coffee
To the left, to the right, jump up and down and to the knees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POv-3yIPSWc
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Originally Posted by jalyst
Sorry for being vague¸ but, I'm aware there is hardware for RX and actually TX, just TX doesn't have the required antenna(s) and RX requires headphones to be plugged in. What I meant by "...and the radio transmitter/receiver which didn't get any love though hardware or software." was that it seems like no one even tried to make either usable and just let them sit there, where adding in an antenna at least for TX wouldn't be any sort of technical marvel (at least I wouldn't expect it to be) but rather shows a place where they put no effort. I really got the impression that it was even just a fluke that RX worked at all.
Actually hardware is there for RX, but apparently not for TX...
Some excellent points elsewhere, but have to disagree with you & mike on the following:
No time now, but later I'll argue why I think the good outweighs the bad, when it comes to integrating Alien.
It'd be a phased thing, that could ultimately be removed... cept for the more "technically inclined" folks
That's not how Alien works, every Android app looks/feels just like a native app, & runs @native speed etc.
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Originally Posted by danramos
You know that the N900 runs fine without a sim card and is still more of a pocket computer than any other device out there?
... and the N900 was just going in that wrong direction for me, too--I didn't want a phone, I wanted a pocket computer.
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Originally Posted by kureyon
For values of "fine" that include:
You know that the N900 runs fine without a sim card
- the device eats more battery
- the wlan is stuck to the US regulatory domain
- getting a GPS fix is painfully slow
and is still more of a pocket computer than any other device out there?
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But this thread is not about the N900.
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