Originally Posted by Copernicus

They really ought to have stuck with the vanilla x86 design and just pushed the thing out asap, rather than try and optimize it.

Originally Posted by pichlo

There is no point arguing with someone who is always right, even if it takes changing the topic. I was taking about how much it costs to develop a tablet and you keep changing the topic to investors. If you do not see that those are different things, then there is no hope. I am out.

Originally Posted by Dave999

Hope the cost cutting came early enough to secure resources to finalize tablet and serve its customers and there by save a tiny hope for the future of jolla

Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix

the future of jolla is in the software side of the company, not the hardware side.

i say this as someone eagerly awaiting my tablet.

Originally Posted by Dave999

And WHO Will buy their sw or invest in jolla IF they can't deliver a few tablets? Its all tied together.

Originally Posted by gerbick

Actually, no it is not. They've proven that their OS is optimized enough to run on mid-tier hardware without issue. They've scaled up from ARM to x86 in under a year and thus their OS is also flexible in whichever instruction set you throw at it.

They've been community ported to the Nexus 5, Sony devices, a plethora of other devices... hell, it's been ported to Raspberry Pi and they've released an Android launcher. So no, their software division is not tied to the hardware division in the least.

There are so many other manufacturers with a legion of engineers that have yet to produce a product such as Sailfish. Free of Google, free of Apple, free of backdoors... and there's a ton of hardware folks that want to produce something different than the others.

Somebody elsewhere on this forum had stated that when they split the hardware from the software that might have been to assess and categorize losses during restructuring. That's quite astute of them if that's the case and it bolsters the case for hardware and software being separate.

Originally Posted by Dave999

Man, there is more than technical implications here. Business wise. Great devs left the buiding and so forth. But if you think its good move to save a few bucks, take the badwill from their most trusted supporters and skip the tablets, I wont stop you. In fact, I wont even argue about the subject. To me, its beyond stupid

Originally Posted by MartinK

While many people do engage in nonsensical rants please note that many of us have been there since the N900 and N9 (or even longer!) and it would be pretty stupid to stay silent if you see the same mistakes being repeated for the second (or even a third!) time.

Originally Posted by pichlo

Dave, the damage is already done. They lied to you! They could have said right away that the problem was cash flow but they kept silent for months and/or coming with one excuse after another.

Originally Posted by pichlo

Dave, the damage is already done. They lied to you! They could have said right away that the problem was cash flow but they kept silent for months and/or coming with one excuse after another. I am sure it was with the best intentions and they really hoped that the cash would come and they could deliver but the fact remains, they lied. They proved that you cannot trust them.

In cases like this, I truly believe that honesty is the best option. I have been a few times in a situation when I had to apologize to our customers for the delay and my experience is that honesty usually pays off the best.

And you are not even a customer. Until you receive that invitation and pay for the delivery, you are still an IGG backer. In other words, an investor. There is nothing wrong with asking investors for more money. I am sure many would do it if Jolla were honest and explained the situation.