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2010-04-23
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@Mengs
600 euros ouch, I can see why you're pissed, still I'd cut my losses as it appears you're not going to be happy re the functionality with the device either as a phone or mini pc.
I guess that's why I never pay hard cash for new devices like this and opt for contract upgrades, if it's not what I want regardless what others say, I exchange it within the allowed timescale.
600 euros ouch, I can see why you're pissed, still I'd cut my losses as it appears you're not going to be happy re the functionality with the device either as a phone or mini pc.
I guess that's why I never pay hard cash for new devices like this and opt for contract upgrades, if it's not what I want regardless what others say, I exchange it within the allowed timescale.
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2010-04-23
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#203
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so you wanna hug or what? keep that threads for your personal blogs please.
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2010-04-23
, 08:50
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Originally Posted by bandora
True enough. but calling people dum doesn't help, if this really was a device for the community as you infer then perhaps Nokia should have been a bit more upfront about it's intended audience.
It's not that we're fanboys of Nokia but we actually do some research/reading/LISTENING before we buy something... Nokia has always stated that Maemo 5 and N900 is step 4/5 and it's meant to be a device mostly for DEVELOPERS/TESTERS... So in other words the N900 was meant to be more of a community driven device... But people are dumb enough to ignore all this and start complaining here on (maemo.org); WHICH IS A COMMUNITY SITE and not an official Nokia support forum... And they're dumb enough to keep on posting new threads almost everyday without searching... So everyonne who is complaining about this is really just showing the rest that you have not done your homework and now you're complaining why you're getting a bad grade...
The issue I can see is that no amount of research in the early days revealed this to be the case, Vodafone said nothing of the sort and happily sold it to folk as a smartphone couple this with reviews on TV from those highly knowledgeable chaps on the gadget show
and you can see why some would have assumed they were getting phone as opposed to a community developer device.So hands on research was the only way to really decide if it's for them or not.
If people are buying it now then they deserve what they get as there is plenty of information re the potential pitfalls of this device. Which I guess is why some people post in here.
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2010-04-23
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Originally Posted by bandora
from today to every "hate n900" thread i'll post 2 "i love n900" threads i think
It's not that we're fanboys of Nokia but we actually do some research/reading/LISTENING before we buy something... Nokia has always stated that Maemo 5 and N900 is step 4/5 and it's meant to be a device mostly for DEVELOPERS/TESTERS... So in other words the N900 was meant to be more of a community driven device... But people are dumb enough to ignore all this and start complaining here on (maemo.org); WHICH IS A COMMUNITY SITE and not an official Nokia support forum... And they're dumb enough to keep on posting new threads almost everyday without searching... So everyonne who is complaining about this is really just showing the rest that you have not done your homework and now you're complaining why you're getting a bad grade... Do you see how that really is dumb now?
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2010-04-23
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@ Finland / UK
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I honestly don't understand what the fuss is about. I agree with some of the posts, that yes Nokia has missed the mark with their high-end smartphones, but then at the same time they are the best sellers in developing countries such as China, India, Africa. I tend to visit the Middle East and North Africa on a frequent basis and in those countries Nokia is the phone to have. I just think that looking at a small (although growing) segment like smartphones doesn't really give you the greater picture. The developing World are going to catchup with the rest of us and they will not be doing so with an iPhone in their pocket, but with an affordable phone.
Anyway, all Companies have highs and lows, I remember when I was a child the TV to have was a Sony, today there is more competition in the TV market. Notice I am not saying that Sony is not as good as its competitors, but there was no Samsung or LG making TV's at the time (or not to my knowledge). None the less Sony is still in the running of being the biggest TV manufacturer in the World.
Nokia must answer to the new competition (iPhone, HTC, etc.). Also note that both Motorola and Ericsson (now SonyEricsson) were with Nokia the 3 largest mobile phone manufacturers about 15 years ago, both of those companies are struggling to survive at the moment. Whilst Nokia is still the biggest mobile phone manufacturer. So lets see how well Nokia bounces back from all of this, hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and bring a more successful smartphone to the market. But I wouldn't count them out of the race just yet.
Anyway, all Companies have highs and lows, I remember when I was a child the TV to have was a Sony, today there is more competition in the TV market. Notice I am not saying that Sony is not as good as its competitors, but there was no Samsung or LG making TV's at the time (or not to my knowledge). None the less Sony is still in the running of being the biggest TV manufacturer in the World.
Nokia must answer to the new competition (iPhone, HTC, etc.). Also note that both Motorola and Ericsson (now SonyEricsson) were with Nokia the 3 largest mobile phone manufacturers about 15 years ago, both of those companies are struggling to survive at the moment. Whilst Nokia is still the biggest mobile phone manufacturer. So lets see how well Nokia bounces back from all of this, hopefully they will learn from their mistakes and bring a more successful smartphone to the market. But I wouldn't count them out of the race just yet.
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2010-04-23
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@ Michigan
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Originally Posted by shugg
Not trying to argue but making a small point.
True enough. but calling people dum doesn't help, if this really was a device for the community as you infer then perhaps Nokia should have been a bit more upfront about it's intended audience.
The issue I can see is that no amount of research in the early days revealed this to be the case, Vodafone said nothing of the sort and happily sold it to folk as a smartphone couple this with reviews on TV from those highly knowledgeable chaps on the gadget show
So hands on research was the only way to really decide if it's for them or not.
If people are buying it now then they deserve what they get as there is plenty of information re the potential pitfalls of this device. Which I guess is why some people post in here.
I never recalled the N900 being mentioned as a phone when I was looking at the device. I seem to recall it being mentioned as a Internet Tablet with GSM functionality.
If you look most if not all Nokia's internet tablets were more community driven then Nokia.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
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2010-04-23
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Originally Posted by benny1967
OK - just read my post and maybe it is not imminent but it is starting to happen - until Nokia "wake up" then Nokia's smartphone share wil go "bye-bye".
Talking about reality distortion... market shares up (smartphone market), profit and turnover up, by far the most successful smartphone vendor in the universe (>40% market share), and they're "about to lose the market entirely".
"Nokia Hurt by Further Delay to Smartphones"
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7105683.ece
"Deep Value ot Value Trap"
http://online.barrons.com/article/SB...ons_technology
"Nokia Profit May Show Less Bounce as IPhones Spread"
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-update1-.html
3 new "low cost" smartphones from Nokia.
http://www.sci-tech-today.com/news/N...Y3&full_skip=1
Not a good sign.
Android is now everywhere; Sony-Ericsson, Samsung, Motorola...
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2010-04-23
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Originally Posted by Bijiont
Actually I agree re the research, hence why I said if people are buying it now they deserve what they get
Not trying to argue but making a small point.
I never recalled the N900 being mentioned as a phone when I was looking at the device. I seem to recall it being mentioned as a Internet Tablet with GSM functionality.
If you look most if not all Nokia's internet tablets were more community driven then Nokia.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
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2010-04-23
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Several Linux distributions have been trying to become mainstream unsuccessfully and Maemo is no exception. This phone was intended for the general public believe it or not.
I appreciate the respectable and thoughtful replies but those who are calling the N900 a "developer phone" and urge those who complain about bad support to sell it is counter productive for the whole process of making Maemo/Meego mainstream. Linux's success in the world will not be based on what a nerd will do on his terminal for his own pleasure but how he can make that terminal disappear for us to still be able to use Linux at its fullest.
Last edited by h3llraz0r; 2010-04-23 at 09:17.
I appreciate the respectable and thoughtful replies but those who are calling the N900 a "developer phone" and urge those who complain about bad support to sell it is counter productive for the whole process of making Maemo/Meego mainstream. Linux's success in the world will not be based on what a nerd will do on his terminal for his own pleasure but how he can make that terminal disappear for us to still be able to use Linux at its fullest.
Last edited by h3llraz0r; 2010-04-23 at 09:17.
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