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2010-02-05
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#202
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Originally Posted by Holographic91
No, the rootfs isn't the same as the RAM. The root space is needed (during normal usage) for some temporary files, application state files, etc. - nothing huge. There shouldn't be any performance impacts with 27M free rootfs - if you get below 10 then you probably need to start taking a serious look at things though.
Is root the same as the 256 ram?
Does the phone need root memory to let the phone work properly? I only have 27 mb's of root and have the feeling that it getting slower.
Originally Posted by Holographic91
Why is optifying only a temporary solution? If apps (and libraries) are optified then there's nothing stopping you installing hundreds of apps. As far as the OVI apps go, all the ones I've looked at have been optified - the runtime libraries they depend upon aren't though, so this may be what you're seeing.
All the things I've read so far are things how to move apps that use root, and things about optified apps. These are all still temporary solutions. Are there going to be solutions (soon) so that we can install hundred of apps? What I've said in my previous post: apps from OVI store still use root memory! I don't say mb's but still it is to much to install many apps. One reason that ive's bought this phone is because of apps. iPhone, Android etc doesn't have this problem, you can install hundred of apps on them (but i don't like the phones).
Originally Posted by Holographic91
It'd certainly be nice having more rootfs space, yes. Unfortunately that was a hardware limitation at design time. I'm sure future updates will continue to make efforts to push libraries out of rootfs (python has already been done and Qt4.6 is optified), freeing up more space.
People can't fix this problem. Maybe the N900 itself is wrong developed?
Originally Posted by Holographic91
If you stick to apps that have passed the testing criteria (and yes, some of the current OVI store apps wouldn't do - hopefully Nokia will bring their testing standards closer to those of the community), then the rootfs usage will be minimal.
Sorry for the negativity, Don't get me wrong. It's nice to see that people care about Maemo and development. We all have much benefit from people who develop and spent time on Maemo, it just isn't relaxing knowing your root is getting smaller and smaller. I still want to install apps over a few months/years.
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2010-02-05
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#203
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"Why is optifying only a temporary solution? If apps (and libraries) are optified then there's nothing stopping you installing hundreds of apps."
Ok, since optifying is such a great solution it won't be an issue anymore starting when? Tomorrow? Next week?
Where do I get the hundreds of apps to install when I should "stick to apps that have passed the testing criteria"?
Ok, since optifying is such a great solution it won't be an issue anymore starting when? Tomorrow? Next week?
Where do I get the hundreds of apps to install when I should "stick to apps that have passed the testing criteria"?
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2010-02-05
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#204
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Originally Posted by geneven
The optifying is a new implementation to Maemo 5 and not common to almost any other (especially mainstream) distribution.
"Why is optifying only a temporary solution? If apps (and libraries) are optified then there's nothing stopping you installing hundreds of apps."
Ok, since optifying is such a great solution it won't be an issue anymore starting when? Tomorrow? Next week?
Where do I get the hundreds of apps to install when I should "stick to apps that have passed the testing criteria"?
It's been 3(?) months.. people are still porting all the software from the beloved N7/8x0 and other linux distributions over. These all need to be "optified"..
Over time there will most certainly be hundreds if not more optified apps in the main Extras. Plus I *believe* they were working on a way to implement optifying directly in auto-builder.. so every package that gets uploaded will be optified...
Oh Looks like it already does if you add maemo-optify to the appropriate area for a deb package.
The thing about Open Source, (and just the sheer simplicity of), development of software like this community is that getting anyone to follow any kind of 100% standard is really quite difficult.
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2010-02-05
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#205
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Originally Posted by Rob1n
Sorry, you said both:
That's what I said, isn't it?
Originally Posted by Rob1n
(python2 has the main python library on rootfs, taking up over a meg),
it flags the other python libraries as well, but they're actually bind mounted from within /opt.
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2010-02-07
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#206
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Hi
I am going to move apt to home directory and I understand by running:
apt-get update -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache
apt-get install -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache foo
Will do this. Question though, do I have to remove anything afterwards or does it auto clean the old directories?
Scott
I am going to move apt to home directory and I understand by running:
apt-get update -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache
apt-get install -o dir::cache=/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache foo
Will do this. Question though, do I have to remove anything afterwards or does it auto clean the old directories?
Scott
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2010-02-08
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#207
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Hi All,
Thanks for all your points and input. With your help I also did some moving of file and linked it to /home. Now I have more than 100 MB free.
What all I have moved.
Thanks for all your points and input. With your help I also did some moving of file and linked it to /home. Now I have more than 100 MB free.
What all I have moved.
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2010-02-09
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2 fesar
Impressive. Is there any performance impact?
Impressive. Is there any performance impact?
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2010-02-09
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#209
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Originally Posted by geneven
http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/
Where do I get the hundreds of apps to install when I should "stick to apps that have passed the testing criteria"?
Downloads for Maemo5 ( 156 )
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2010-02-16
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#210
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Hi all,
So far no impact except themes. Because when you reboot your N900 it goes back to the default theme. Which was not a big concern to me. Otherwise its very good.
Fesar
Last edited by fesar; 2010-02-16 at 21:17.
So far no impact except themes. Because when you reboot your N900 it goes back to the default theme. Which was not a big concern to me. Otherwise its very good.
Fesar
Last edited by fesar; 2010-02-16 at 21:17.
Does the phone need root memory to let the phone work properly? I only have 27 mb's of root and have the feeling that it getting slower.
All the things I've read so far are things how to move apps that use root, and things about optified apps. These are all still temporary solutions. Are there going to be solutions (soon) so that we can install hundred of apps? What I've said in my previous post: apps from OVI store still use root memory! I don't say mb's but still it is to much to install many apps. One reason that ive's bought this phone is because of apps. iPhone, Android etc doesn't have this problem, you can install hundred of apps on them (but i don't like the phones).
People can't fix this problem. Maybe the N900 itself is wrong developed?
Sorry for the negativity, Don't get me wrong. It's nice to see that people care about Maemo and development. We all have much benefit from people who develop and spent time on Maemo, it just isn't relaxing knowing your root is getting smaller and smaller. I still want to install apps over a few months/years.
Thank you!