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2007-10-01 , 21:40
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#201
Originally Posted by Garage Battle View Post
lol honestly.

if the n800 has the processing power of a cheap laptop, then this would be totally feasible. sad fact, it doesnt.

heres the other thing. if you are so hard up to use the full version of the site, then you will still be able to, just point the browser there. some of us are on the run, and we want our data fast, simple, and effective. my little nokia phone's google maps program runs circles around the full site on the n800. i actually prefer it 10 to 1.

and no, we dont have aim, msn, and yahoo, we have some ported/hand made version that does not have the refinement of the sidekick versions.
Its more than enough power for me to be happy with it. Also, I'm not talking about Pidgin. MSN, AIM and the others work well enough through Jabber.
 
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Originally Posted by Garage Battle View Post
and no, we dont have aim, msn, and yahoo, we have some ported/hand made version that does not have the refinement of the sidekick versions.
Most of your comments are highly subjective, but it takes a certain amount of rank chutzpah to slam "hand made" Linux apps for the burgeoning open source mobile landscape.

Personally I have the utmost respect for those who have freely ported and coded apps for the N800 or any other environ or device for that matter. As zerojay said, as long as it works, I'm happy. No-cost, ad-free Pidgin certainly does exactly what I need.
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2007-10-02 , 02:58
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Originally Posted by ragnar View Post

But rest assured, many involved people are reading these discussions, even if they cannot really actively comment on certain topics. .
With the bantering, bashing, pissing and moaning that goes on here, to me it's like a ray of sunshine when someone like Ragnar steps in with these tidbits.
Also highly appreciated are Texrat's "vapid" updates and explanations of Nokia's game plan. Maybe some of Nokia's corporate policies and procedures might not be understood by us, the IT project may not be getting enough internal attention, etc. etc., but I at least find it somewhat reassuring to hear a bit about their stratigies, plans and commitments for this neat little device.
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2007-10-02 , 03:34
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#204
Thanks Kenny.

Ragnar is correct in that (*cough*) certain posters (*cough*) need to be careful with what they say and even don't say . Hopefully I've managed that. And the jibes about cheerleading and teasing are all forgotten when I see the bursts of posts around some new development. I'm still excited about these products and I hope they have a long and full future.
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2007-10-02 , 07:42
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#205
Yeah, you've really got something special when you have so many people talking about it, arguing about it, developing for it, using it, creating with it, helping people with it, connecting to people with it, teaching with it, learning with it, sharing, caring, even daring people with it. I could go on, but we all know by now that there's just no limit to what we can come up with for market changers/makers/shakers like these.

It's still early in the game for this great idea, and I hope it becomes a major success for not only Nokia, but the Linux and Open Source communities too. Some will say it already is a success, and some will say it's far far from it, but only time will tell the truth. One thing is for certain, it will have a rich history to look back on in the future.
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2007-10-02 , 18:39
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#206
Texrat. I love your posts. They give me a lot of hope we're going to see something very special.

I bought a 770 but didn't use it much. I found it far too slow. My N800 however (Coupled with a good data plan) sees almost daily use and I find it indispensable. The only thing I miss is a physical keyboard so imagine my joy when I find out that it looks like we're getting one GFrotz is going to be so much fun on the train to work.

Even if the new device was just a N800 with a slide keyboard I'd be the first in the queue with my credit card. I'm constantly amazed by what I can do with my N800. Totally love it to bits and I'm really looking forward to seeing what Nokia come up with next.

What I would like to see is more use of the excellent apps the OSS community here have developed. Imagine a new tablet that used mplayer as the video player backend instead of the rather pitiful player that comes built in now. Perhaps even flash websites that run at a decent speed

Do we have any suspicions for a time frame yet? I'm drooling already.
 
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2007-10-02 , 19:13
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#207
For horsepower, I'd just like to see the OS itself perform a little better when scrolling, zooming, popping up menus, keypads, etc.

You can't do much to keep third-party software in line, but you can certainly polish the bundled apps and system UI.
 
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2007-10-02 , 19:28
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#208
Originally Posted by Garage Battle View Post
... The internet is not designed for tablets, UMPC's, etc. Same thing with cell phones. The power of portability comes in applications. I dont want to goto maps.google.com. That website expects me to me on a 1ghz+ computer with 512 ram. BUT, Google Mobile Maps application (for cell phones, PDA's) and the iPhone Google Maps application, are designed for portable usage. Same thing with the Gmail app, and the iPhone Youtube application....
You do know, though, that this was the original approach of bringing the internet to mobile devices and failed miserably? People don't want 2nd class mobile versions. Companies don't want to duplicate their efforts for a mobile audience. The only way that proved successful so far was to bring "the real thing" to mobile devices - the way Nokias IT series does.
 
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2007-10-02 , 19:37
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Originally Posted by Garage Battle View Post
lol honestly.

if the n800 has the processing power of a cheap laptop, then this would be totally feasible. sad fact, it doesnt.
Sometimes I really wonder what you people talk about. I went to see a friend this weekend whose desktop PC is actually less responsive than my 770... It's a Pentium MMX with 120MB RAM and a hard drive that makes you jump to the next room when in spins up. My fathers PC is not much faster - a bit faster than my 770, but it might not beat an N800.

You should accept the fact that people don't always upgrade their hardware to the latest model available. Some just keep it as long as it works. The average PC, the average laptop in use today might be faster than an internet tablet, but maybe not a lot faster.
So if you say that a 770/N800 is too slow for site A or application B, then the truth is that site A and application B, in fact, cannot be used by a large number of "normal" PC users, either. So blame the site and the application for being too heavy, not the device.
 
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2007-10-02 , 19:57
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#210
Yup. Until last year my dad was using a 10-year old 200 Mhz Pentium Classic with 8 MB RAM and was quite content with it. Actually it still works but what retired it was the lack of USB ports for a digital camera and LAN to hook up a DSL router. I bought the cheapest refurbished PC I could find and it's still way overkill for him.
 
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