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#201
Originally Posted by fatalsaint View Post
The most basic simple guide like what kathy put together. [...] This should have basic setup instructions for a couple different software for the different OS's (linux, mac, windows) and downloadable importable presets for all that software. [...] Then another page more like the Video_Guide we have that lists out the different pages of different software, the different settings, different bitrates.. yadda yadda etc.. for more advanced tuning for those that want to do that.
Which is what we had before all this started:

However, the first one now is talking about anamorphic AVIs and lots of manual resolution decisions. That's the point about preset-based software: you select the preset you want based on quality/space considerations (which only the user can decide) and click "Go".

The page is now a mish-mash of different stuff, half of it is trying to be an introduction to video transcoding ("but I just want to click 'Go'!"), and the other half is now stream of consciousness cut & paste stuff about Handbrake, with some tangential references to the N900.

I do not see any way to merge these two into one wiki document and not scare off the video encoding n00bies out there.
Having had a quick review, IMNSHO half the content on Video encoding isn't even appropriate for wiki.maemo.org: it either belongs on the Handbrake website or one dedicated to transcoding matters such as Doom9. At best, it should be on Manual video encoding with Video encoding introducing click & go tools for your average user on various OSes.
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#202
No argument there. And that is fine.. it's exactly what I said. 2 wiki's, for 2 purposes. We just need a serious overhaul of the Video_Encoding one, and an update for the Manual one.
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#203
I think having one single encoding guide for the N900 is best as there will be no confusion.

The manual one http://wiki.maemo.org/Manual_video_encoding - should really be called command-line encoding - and could easily be slotted into the "main" Wiki http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding

A single document with one section on Presets, quick step-by-step in a few paragraphs, and the rest or bulk of the wiki is talking about each thing like Anamorphic or whatever as it applies to the N900, including encoding limitations, etc., .
 
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#204
I may be joining the whole encoding party a little late, but if Im not fussed overly about the file size (I do have 48gb to play with) can I just stick an AVI file on the phone and play? Surely thats my option for the best quality?
 
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#205
Ok, I'm already testing two HandBrake presets uploaded in this topic. I'm converting some 720p trailer and movies. It should all be done tomorrow morning. Here goes the list;
  • G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra
  • Up
Just reply if you guys want me to share...

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I definitely do. AVI files (if i can) I'll just put on as they are, but any good profile that makes a bluray rip play well im very interested in! Not that I've downloaded Handbrake yet, but im gathering from you guys that its definitely the best converter to go for?
 
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Originally Posted by Luke Valentine View Post
I may be joining the whole encoding party a little late, but if Im not fussed overly about the file size (I do have 48gb to play with) can I just stick an AVI file on the phone and play? Surely thats my option for the best quality?
H264 in an MP4 or MKV container will play perfectly on the N900 and is definitely superior with smaller size and better quality for a whole load of reasons. AVI is long deprecated, hence why Handbrake dropped support for it and Xvid/Divx for encoding in the most recent release.
 
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#208
Lets say I have a whole bunch of AVI files, its really not necessary to convert to any other format, other then size, right? Its not like I can get a better looking AVI from conversion. And as Im not short of space, 700mb doesnt bother me.

Am i right in assuming though that your advice about converting to MP4 using an H264 profile is beneficial if Im converting a DVD file?
 
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Originally Posted by Luke Valentine View Post
Am i right in assuming though that your advice about converting to MP4 using an H264 profile is beneficial if Im converting a DVD file?
Yeah, exactly. Most of them come out at around 700-800MB for me with MP4/H264, but the quality is better (I think!).

I've done a big reformat of the Wiki here http://wiki.maemo.org/Video_encoding
 

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#210
Thats great, I'll have a good read. Luckily (or not, however you see it!) I only really have bluray now, so converting DVD's will be a very rare activity for me, but always handy to have an idea about how to get the best results.

I have a few bluray rips (around the 2-3gb mark) so i'll probably focus on finding a profile for them - trying to reduce as far down as possible, but it would be nice for someone to look at it and immediately see that difference in quality. It'll be interesting to see how well the N900 can handle the higher bit rates
 
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