I reckon this hwkb device will be available to everyone. The only caveat will be that in 1 year time when you are all a herpin' an' a derpin' about flash 13 and angrybirds season 37:even angrier, they will say "hey, it's a dev phone whadd'ya expect?"

i just hope device is avialible on launchpad
kindoff want to port 2 or all of my symbian qt programs which will have take advatage of hardware capabilities on it !!!

wasnt the n900 also mentioned as "some kind of dev phone"?

I just know that it wasnt nokias "official flagship phone", that was the N97/N97mini at that time...

so it would make sense to sell it via nokia web shop or even amazon, if they have produced enough of it

what is launchpad?

I was thinking, and I'm wondering how Nokia would market the device(s). I don't know if they will be releasing one or two or ten for all I care Harmatten/Meego devices. Will the UI/UX be that different enough for them to market on that by itself? Wasn't a big part of the reasoning for adopting WinPhone over Android that it would be too hard for them differentiate in an already crowded market? Both devices (I don't want to say developer and consumer version since I don't know WTF Nokia is thinking) are supposed to be running the same software right? I can see them using the keyboard as a marketing point, but what about the slate? A majority of the Android devices have very similar aesthetics, so how will they differentiate among other touch only devices? I live in the U.S. so we have zero Nokia marketing, so my only exposure is to video's that are posted here. How do you guys think they will try to promote either/both devices?

Its what it says it launches your career into high gear
http://www.forum.nokia.com/Developer...aunchpad.xhtml

its quite good

ignore user: best tmo feature.

There are so much posts in this thread that I don't really feel I need to read the aggressive ones.

Anyway, there are interesting times ahead!

HOw does it compare to iphone4, the current yardstick for smooth UI

Are you that hungry for information that you are willing to alienate everybody just to satisfy your own needs whilst sounding like an unnecessarily angry person that's unwilling to listen and learn more?

Sure you don't believe the two folks with devices. Or with connections. Want the truth? Wait. It's around the corner. If they're wrong, rub it in their faces.

U9500 is a newer generation but probably not as far in development stage as U8500. They are from somewhat different generations and hence will overlap in time.

I was just objecting to the term EOL since the devices using U8500 have not even been announced yet therefore I think that it is a bit premature to call that platform EOL But hopefully we will start seeing device announcements with this platform soon.

EDIT: btw, U8500 supports 14Mbps HSDPA whereas U9500 supports 21Mbps HSDPA.