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2011-04-25
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hey, there ! i was just willing to know... as i couldn't find an answer in this thread - it may be a bit off topic but... - would it be possible to run WebOS apps also ? i mean apps like IM+
or only games are supported because they use SDL libraries ?
thx in advance ^^
or only games are supported because they use SDL libraries ?
thx in advance ^^
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N900 addicted :P
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2011-04-25
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#2153
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I feel a little something to the Standard Rules
How to test the game?
In addition to installing preenv, whether there is what must be installed?
Corresponding to the error message handling that?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Preenv/FAQ shown is for the method corresponding to the individual game
However, not many people to increase data
chmod-R 777 is just a convenient way. but it is not correct
javispedro and travla're right, I'm sorry the government against use the wrong idea
But for newcomers how to play the game the fewest mistakes, DEB and WebOS Games Manager is a good way
But not many people make, WebOS Games Manager has still not fully installed the game all known executable
How to test the game?
In addition to installing preenv, whether there is what must be installed?
Corresponding to the error message handling that?
http://wiki.maemo.org/Preenv/FAQ shown is for the method corresponding to the individual game
However, not many people to increase data
chmod-R 777 is just a convenient way. but it is not correct
javispedro and travla're right, I'm sorry the government against use the wrong idea
But for newcomers how to play the game the fewest mistakes, DEB and WebOS Games Manager is a good way
But not many people make, WebOS Games Manager has still not fully installed the game all known executable
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2011-04-25
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#2154
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Originally Posted by travla
That would require knowing which specific programs displayed themselves in a portrait orientation, which would be a bit hackish. There isn't anything going on with Maemo API rotation there.
javispedro/jflatt, would you guys know whether it would be possbile to add true portrait support for games that are played in portrait mode? The games that are played in portrait work well, but notifications & volume control are in landscape - it would be nice to have them in portait since those two items do work in portrait mode maemo applications.
Just an idea, I have no idea how simple/complex it would be to incorporate, or any roadblocks in the way.
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2011-04-25
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Originally Posted by jflatt
That's what the PDL_SetOrientation function is for
That would require knowing which specific programs displayed themselves in a portrait orientation, which would be a bit hackish. There isn't anything going on with Maemo API rotation there.
AFAIU, its a hint to the system UI from the game which orientation should system alerts, menus, etc. should use.However, the issue is with the Maemo SDL. It doesn't work exactly well with the standard Hildon rotation (doesn't update its valid resolutions list when the screen is rotated, and thus crashes unless you don't render outside of a 480x480 area).
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2011-04-25
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#2156
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Originally Posted by jflatt
Thanks for the response jflatt. I just had a thought, bear with me if I don't make sense. Is a game that is running via preenv seen by Maemo like any other application that is running? If so, could we add a switch to preenv (and desktopgen), say -p, that would allow that instance of preenv to be seen by maemo as a portait application, and hence rotate volume controls and notifications?
That would require knowing which specific programs displayed themselves in a portrait orientation, which would be a bit hackish. There isn't anything going on with Maemo API rotation there.
This would also mean that it is up to the user to set the switch while running the game (or making the shortcut). What do you think?
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2011-04-25
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Originally Posted by javispedro
javispedro, can an orientation be set independent of that function for the application/system interaction?
That's what the PDL_SetOrientation function is for
However, the issue is with the Maemo SDL. It doesn't work exactly well with the standard Hildon rotation (doesn't update its valid resolutions list when the screen is rotated, and thus crashes unless you don't render outside of a 480x480 area).
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2011-04-25
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Originally Posted by travla
Due to the way the Maemo SDL works, the only way this can work is by forcing portait mode from hildon-desktop, so that it works in portrait mode from start to end.
Thanks for the response jflatt. I just had a thought, bear with me if I don't make sense. Is a game that is running via preenv seen by Maemo like any other application that is running? If so, could we add a switch to preenv (and desktopgen), say -p, that would allow that instance of preenv to be seen by maemo as a portait application, and hence rotate volume controls and notifications?
This is impossible with the stock hildon-desktop, as it will flip rotations at least once during the startup. It might be possible with the CSSU hildon-desktop, however, I do not have much motivation to open that can of worms...
It is though on my loong TODO list to fix the Maemo SDL one day (aka=add xrandr notifications support to it).
Originally Posted by travla
Games use that function correctly (because otherwise the same stuff you see on the N900 would happen on the Pre) -- Preenv just doesn't implement it correctly because of the above reasons.
javispedro, can an orientation be set independent of that function for the application/system interaction?
Also, while WebOS is able to rotate the interface in all 4 directions (and the browser for ex does it), the stock hildon-desktop only supports 2.
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2011-04-25
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Thank you for the explanation, makes a little more sense now.
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2011-04-25
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Solved.
If any game seems to get stuck with "Initializing device unique ID", then check to make sure your bluetooth is on in the phone. I did an strace and also looked through the libsdlpre.so and found out that the messages tries to create a unique device id by reading /dev/random if it cannot get the id from the device bluetooth configuration and reading /dev/random is extremely slow.
Also strace revealed some invalid paths in /media/cryptofs - fixed it with symlinks.
qiet72.
If any game seems to get stuck with "Initializing device unique ID", then check to make sure your bluetooth is on in the phone. I did an strace and also looked through the libsdlpre.so and found out that the messages tries to create a unique device id by reading /dev/random if it cannot get the id from the device bluetooth configuration and reading /dev/random is extremely slow.
Also strace revealed some invalid paths in /media/cryptofs - fixed it with symlinks.
qiet72.
Look it even reached 2 pages here and I don't see any need for that at all.
http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=10210140