Man, I could not disagree more with this analogy...

If you explain it to me, in a software development way, on how it cant work, let's say multi-touch API's have a totally different way of implementing "touch" than the "single"-touch ones(which would already prove to be a miserable design), would be better understood...

There is always some dodgy hack to be applied to the software level that could compensate in some hardware deficiency (sometimes the opposite also holds true).

(Just getting out of the topic a bit)
N900 is spreading like wild fire here in my company, provided that the company I work for gives us free phones and the money for the n900 comes from our pockets, and many people that I know from my company is already thinking in developing with Qt or Python because of this device. So it means that Nokia gained momentum with it...

And it comes back to what worries me, is how Nokia will try to update its Maemo line. Nokia needs to give the ability for its users to update the software of their mobile computers without the necessity of buying another device...

And I am not talking about the N900, I am talking about when the update for M6 comes out. People are already waiting to update their phone with the latest software, not in a hackish way, and nothing screams more professional than having a computer that can be updated hassle free...

i think that the nokia n900 will get MAEMO 6 OS 8th or 10th firmware update for the phone with java suport and lot more space for installation and battery fix that lost alot longer and bugs fix.

Why? Nokia wont disappoint us nokian
and the current stage that it is in it only support multi touch,
i think that nokia is try to give us multitouch on the resistive screen+keybroad but it wont be perfect as capacitive screen right know in my option.
Its pretty much unstable as it is in production

just options

HangLoose

If you explain it to me, in a software development way, on how it cant work, let's say multi-touch API's have a totally different way of implementing "touch" than the "single"-touch ones(which would already prove to be a miserable design), would be better understood...

There is always some dodgy hack to be applied to the software level that could compensate in some hardware deficiency (sometimes the opposite also holds true).

(Just getting out of the topic a bit)


N900 is spreading like wild fire here in my company, provided that the company I work for gives us free phones and the money for the n900 comes from our pockets, and many people that I know from my company is already thinking in developing with Qt or Python because of this device. So it means that Nokia gained momentum with it...

And it comes back to what worries me, is how Nokia will try to update its Maemo line. Nokia needs to give the ability for its users to update the software of their mobile computers without the necessity of buying another device...

And I am not talking about the N900, I am talking about when the update for M6 comes out. People are already waiting to update their phone with the latest software, not in a hackish way, and nothing screams more professional than having a computer that can be updated hassle free...


I total agreed with you please nokia dont disappoint us

I hope Nokia updates the n900 with Maemo 6! I will be so disappointed if they do not. That would mean the n900 is already a dead end if it can not run the newer OS when it is available, what a waste if it is not happening. I would not buy another Nokia tablet if this is the case. The iPhone 1st generation, which is over 2 years old has been updated every time a new OS has been released. Come on Nokia don't disappoint us!!

Not necessary. For one thing there's Mer. And even if you didn't want to run Mer, then Nokia's plan is for apps to be cross-platform as long as they are built using QT. So ideally you could take an app programmed in QT from Symbian or say Maemo 6 and run it in Maemo5. And vice versa in the future.

But yes, Nokia will have to make an interesting decision.

• s/MAEMO/Maemo/.
• We know PR1.2 is planned, hoping for 8-10 updates to Maemo 5 seems... unrealistic (see bugs.maemo.org and past number of updates).
• We know that the current plan for Harmattan is to install the OS and apps to the eMMC (and so probably the NAND for swap), but this isn't definite - pending, for example, performance tests (see Marius' emails to maemo-developers about /opt)
• Java, despite my own personal feelings, seems very unlikely. Nokia has two strategic development platforms: Web Runtime (HTML/JS/CSS) and Qt (primairly C++, but with a lot of support to Python as a language too).

I hope we see Maemo 6, but I don't expect it.

I happen to think that the market has evolved. Android devices are now being regularly updated by google, and even WinMob machines are now being upgraded (in some cases) to newer OS levels. iPhone of course has been doing this too, through hw revisions.

so all the key competition is ALREADY allowing OS updates on existing devices. Maemo is pushing the boundaries for openness and trying to push market share. for Nokia to cut off a large installed base by not updating the OS is in my view suicidal. We may as well head off to Android right now.

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did you read this thread? specifically the post detailing how the 770, 800 and 810 were upgraded through the different maemo releases?

Is there any reason to think that they wouldn't do the same now?

From the way that they were talking about Maemo 6, I got the feeling that the n900 would have the same fate as the 770 Tablet...
Made me hesitate at first, but still got a n900...

wouldnt it make sense for nokia to let n900 owners upate to maemo6 when its avalible

if you can totally reflash the device wouldnt this be possible with something like maemo flasher??

surely it would be like upgrading xp - vista - windows7 exscuse the microsoft termanolagy

if nokia are using us as maemo beta testers wouldnt it make sense to let us upgrade to maemo6 and then they only have maemo6 to concentrate on development wise

to me it would make sense iam sure the n900 hardware wouldnt provide any problems

as the n900 is so like a computer i would think it would be possible

wether nokia would allow it though

would anyone buy it like a service pack :-) that another option and one where nokia is win win so surely they would like that

they dont loose if you keep maemo 5
they gain money if you buy the maemo6 service pack
they make money if you buy a new maemo6 device

sounds like the perfect compromuise to me

id be willing to pay 50-60 tops for maemo 6 service pack depending on what it offers over maemo 5

what about you peeps :-)