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#211
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At this point I'm looking ahead. Purism Librem is supposed to come out in early 2019. Seems hopelessly far away. Anything from Jolla in 2018? Any other possibilities that have gnu/linux at its heart and also makes calls?
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2017-12-30
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#212
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Originally Posted by immi.shk
I was given a GPD Win for Christmas, and though Ubuntu and Arch Linux do indeed run on it, many, many things such as:
Currently by the end of 2017, there are a few Linux/win machines which are pretty nice and compact.
and
"which really exist"
1 GPD Win
https://i.imgur.com/e8SOJqt.jpg
64 GB internal
4GB Ram
full qwerty + gaming keys which acts as mouse
1 usb 3.0
1 full hdmi
1 micro sd
full windows 10
Ubuntu working
1) WiFi
2) Battery charging
3) Sound
4) Screen brightness
5) Screen orientation
6) suspend/resume
7) Battery monitoring
etc, etc don't work if you just install a distro from an ISO image. To even get the ISO image to boot from a thumb drive, you must downgrade the BIOS because the BIOS shipped with new units is dumbed-down to the point of uselessness. There are fixes for many of these issues posted here and there on the web, but except for the WiFi fix they involve building a custom kernel, along with lots of other tweeks. I'm still piddling around with it, but I can tell that this will be a device that will never completely work when running Linux.
Also, on my unit at least, the backlight is quite nonuniform, so there are areas of the screen which are significantly brighter than others. The touch screen is not very responsive. Graphics are very slow compared to what you get on a modern mobile phone. Overall, the Atom processor seems about 1/2 as fast as a Snapdragon 821. It's quite an indictment of Intel that a fan is needed to cool this processor.
*sigh* I wish I believed I would live long enough to see the Pyra shipped.
Last edited by Ken-Young; 2017-12-30 at 22:32.
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2017-12-30
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#213
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Thanks for that Ken...
I was considering getting a GPD
now with your findings...
I won't even bother.
I will stick to my n8x0's...
and my pi puttering ...
I was considering getting a GPD
now with your findings...
I won't even bother.
I will stick to my n8x0's...
and my pi puttering ...
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1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
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PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
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Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2017-12-30
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#214
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Originally Posted by endsormeans
I'll post again if I get it running really well. I doubt that will happen.
Thanks for that Ken...
I was considering getting a GPD
now with your findings...
I won't even bother.
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2017-12-31
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#215
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
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I was given a GPD Win for Christmas, and though Ubuntu and Arch Linux do indeed run on it, many, many things such as:
1) WiFi
2) Battery charging
3) Sound
4) Screen brightness
5) Screen orientation
6) suspend/resume
7) Battery monitoring
etc, etc don't work if you just install a distro from an ISO image. To even get the ISO image to boot from a thumb drive, you must downgrade the BIOS because the BIOS shipped with new units is dumbed-down to the point of uselessness. There are fixes for many of these issues posted here and there on the web, but except for the WiFi fix they involve building a custom kernel, along with lots of other tweaks. I'm still piddling around with it, but I can tell that this will be a device that will never completely work when running Linux.
Also, on my unit at least, the backlight is quite nonuniform, so there are areas of the screen which are significantly brighter than others. The touch screen is not very responsive. Graphics are very slow compared to what you get on a modern mobile phone. Overall, the Atom processor seems about 1/2 as fast as a Snapdragon 821. It's quite an indictment of Intel that a fan is needed to cool this processor.
*sigh* I wish I believed I would live long enough to see the Pyra shipped.
Well, I do not have first hand experience with GPD Win but i feel these guys did pretty well with Linux on GPD Win.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSVysKUmXM
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMjwVYGuLpc
they managed to get "WiFi" and "Brightness" working i guess, still no Sound. but i feel it wont take long achieve that too.
as i said earlier, i like the standalone input methods of GPD win which requires no additional input devices like mouse or even touchscreen or a flat surface to rest on.
Still, if anyone wants a proper official Linux supported device then GPD pocket is for them, since it has its own Official Ubuntu Firmware
also
the Gemini PDA guys Demoed there working Prototype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IggSfTyzCQ
Lets hope the Best is Coming for hand-held Linux Devices
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[Transform] Easy Debian LXDE to Window Xp, Win7, Win98 Desktop
[Transform] N900 Nitdroid to Cute "iPad Micro-Tablet"
[Transform] N900 Nitdroid to Awesome "HONEYCOMB MICRO-TABLET"
[SOLVED]- N900 Nitdroid WiFi Hotspot(Ad-Hoc WiFi Tether)
[SOLVED]- WiFi[Ad-Hoc] Internet Tethering problem
[INSTALL] Oprea Mobile to PC
LXDE simplified , TMO [Night-Mode]
Be the change you want to see in the World - Mahatma Gandhi
[Transform] Easy Debian LXDE to Window Xp, Win7, Win98 Desktop
[Transform] N900 Nitdroid to Cute "iPad Micro-Tablet"
[Transform] N900 Nitdroid to Awesome "HONEYCOMB MICRO-TABLET"
[SOLVED]- N900 Nitdroid WiFi Hotspot(Ad-Hoc WiFi Tether)
[SOLVED]- WiFi[Ad-Hoc] Internet Tethering problem
[INSTALL] Oprea Mobile to PC
LXDE simplified , TMO [Night-Mode]
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2018-01-01
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Thanks for all the information everyone provided throughout 2017.
Happy New Year.
I wanted to finish 2017 with a poll about what the best linux handheld
was during 2017.
But I am overwhelmed with distractions and other business.
I suggest anyone who feels the urge to pick up where I leave off
and make the next logical thread:
( You know what to do ! )
cheers for everyone's prosperity in 2018
Happy New Year.
I wanted to finish 2017 with a poll about what the best linux handheld
was during 2017.
But I am overwhelmed with distractions and other business.
I suggest anyone who feels the urge to pick up where I leave off
and make the next logical thread:
( You know what to do ! )
cheers for everyone's prosperity in 2018
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One fordevelopment testing Chopping Onions
One forsaltwater immersion power testing resurrected ! parts scavenging
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Printing your Email with the N900
Three n900s: One for stable working platform,
One for
One for
My Mods for Wonko's Advanced Clock Plugin:
ISO8601 clock mod and Momental_IST clock mod
Printing your Email with the N900
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2018-01-01
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#217
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You got it T.O.L. (theonelaw) !
I know just what to do!
Check out the new thread no sooner than the next 5 minutes...no later than tomorrow...
Last edited by endsormeans; 2018-02-13 at 01:57.
I know just what to do!
Check out the new thread no sooner than the next 5 minutes...no later than tomorrow...
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Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
Lurker since 2007, Member since 2013, Certifiable since 1972
Owner of :
1-n770 (in retirement), 3-n800's / 3-n810's (still in daily use), 5-n900's ((3 are flawless, 1 loose usb ( parts), 1 has no telephony (parts))
3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)
1/2 - neo900 pre- "purchased" in 2013. N̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶w̶a̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶e̶f̶u̶n̶d̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶c̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ - neo900 start up declared officially dead -
Lost invested funds.
PIMP MY N8X0 (Idiot's Guide and a video walkthrough)http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=94294
THE LOST GRONMAYER CATALOGShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ight=gronmayer
N8X0 VIDEO ENCODING THE EASY WAYhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...ght=mediacoder
242gb ON N800http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90634
THE PAIN-FREE MAEMO DEVELOPMENT LIVE DISTRO-ISO FOR THE NOOB TO THE PROhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95567
AFFORDABLE MASS PRODUCTION FOR MAEMO PARTShttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93325
Meateo balloons now available @ Dave999's Meateo Emporium
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2018-02-12
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#218
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
Hi. I happen to notice that the developer of gnuroot Debian has made significant progress fixing the problem with gnuroot Debian running on Oreo. Looking forward his success!
Sadly, Android version 8 (Oreo) broke gnuroot Debian (see https://github.com/corbinlc/GNURootDebian/issues/206). It looks like the issue may be "seccomp filtering" which was added in Oreo. This problem was noticed immediately upon the initial release of Oreo, a couple of months ago, and it has not been fixed yet. I get the feeling that gnuroot Debian has fewer people working on it than Termux does.
I've used both, and gnuroot Debian seemed to give a more "fully gnu/linux" feeling than Termux does. It felt like a regular changeroot environment. gnuroot Debian has an integrated X11 server, which Termux does not.
However, gnuroot Debian is a 32 bit Arm environment, and Termux is 64 bit. Even if you disabled wakelock and wifilock on gnuroot Debian, it still occasionally drained significant battery power even when you weren't running any code with it. Termux doesn't do that. Also, Termux supports setting up scripts that are run whenever the handset is booted, and also can be integrated with Tasker.
Termux only supports passwordless ssh logins to the handset; there is no concept of a user account, so you have to copy your public ssh keys onto the handset if you want to allow logins via sshd, and since there's no password then, it's a bit less secure than logging in using sshd under gnuroot Debian.
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2018-03-04
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2018-03-04
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#220
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young
Wow I like the zmach z. <> Gemini-PDA > SFOS
From Hacker News today:
https://www.giantpockets.com/?p=5615
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