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2008-11-17
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#212
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Originally Posted by mackaroni
It seems i was overhasty...
By the way, it seems you´re working out upnp now (playlist is saved!)
With revision 586 the upnp-playlist is saved, but "currently unavailable" again...
mackaroni
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2008-11-17
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It should become "available" once the UPnP server is discovered. It's important that the server did not change its UUID inbetween. The UUID is a globally unique identifier identifying the server and should not change. However, some UPnP servers generate a new UUID each time they start. 
By the way, revision 592 is available with some bugfixes.
By the way, revision 592 is available with some bugfixes.
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2008-11-18
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Is it possible to have media-box start a connection to the net if one is not running to get, lets say, a net radio station or songs from a net server?
I found this happens in Media Player.
I found this happens in Media Player.
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2008-11-26
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I don't know anyone already said this but, I am listening to some mp3 right now on my N810 using this program and one problem that I find is that, each time the next song plays, the volume goes up. No matter how low I have it and how many times I reduce it to a minimum, it goes back up and sound like its at its maximum volume.
Has anyone else have this problem?
Has anyone else have this problem?
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2008-11-26
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Ok, so I just did this test. I turned the volume down to zero and started a new song and it did the same thing where it sounded to max but, the volume was still at zero. I think there is a conflict between the two volume controls on the device, the button controls and the internal volume. I always keep the internal volume to max since they don't work with the buttons when I want to adjust the volume.
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2008-11-26
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Originally Posted by FRZ
Yeah, I am right. I turned the internal volume also to zero and played a song and no sound came out and then, even with the button volume up to 100%.
Ok, so I just did this test. I turned the volume down to zero and started a new song and it did the same thing where it sounded to max but, the volume was still at zero. I think there is a conflict between the two volume controls on the device, the button controls and the internal volume. I always keep the internal volume to max since they don't work with the buttons when I want to adjust the volume.
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2008-11-26
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You're right. There seems to be a conflict between the internal volume control and the builtin osso-media-server (which MediaBox uses to play mp3 format). I think this problem is fixed in the SVN version but please let me know if not. MediaBox is not the only player suffering from this, btw. It's a bug in the hildon desktop that we have to work around.
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2008-11-30
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Just downloaded the latest SVN version - it is getting better with every release - thanks for that.
I have some suggestions - I am not sure whether this conflicts with some of the core design principles that you have for the app.
1. I like the transparency and dark backgrounds in the latest release. Would it be possible to provide an option to have a dark background and white lettering, or light background and dark lettering ( like now) ?
2. Would it make sense to make it configurable whether the application should re-scan at startup and scan on demand. Right now it always scans on startup, delaying the startup time.
3. Right now you have two levels of menus - A higher level at the bottom panel ( music / videos / photos etc. ) and a finer level on the side ( YouTube, WorldTV , Videos ) on the side. Would it make sense to have all options only at the bottom 'pull up' panel , thereby releasing some screen real-estate that can be utilized for something else.
4. A software volume control would be good - Among all the other things, this seems to be something obvious that is missing. I am aware that the volume can be controlled with the hardware buttons.
5. Right now the artist option rescans every time the app is run. Why is that ? Isn't it cached, like everything else ?
6. Would it make sense to have pictures of artists just like album covers ? I am wondering what would be a good way for an user to supply their own pictures just like they can for album covers.
7. For the music player - right now clicking on an album expands the tracks along with the list of the albums. Instead of merging the track list with the album list , would it make sense to expand the track list in a separate window, leaving the main album list intact ?
8. For the track list, is there any point in showing the same cover art for each track of the same album ? Instead just show the cover art, and then have a condensed list of tracks that can be quickly navigated ( for example fit on a single screen and scroll only if absolutely necessary)
Once again I am just looking at it from a usability perspective - I am not sure how complex it is to implement all this. Regardless, I would like to say that you are doing a wonderful job with this application, and it is great to look forward to frequent updates. Many thanks for that.
I have some suggestions - I am not sure whether this conflicts with some of the core design principles that you have for the app.
1. I like the transparency and dark backgrounds in the latest release. Would it be possible to provide an option to have a dark background and white lettering, or light background and dark lettering ( like now) ?
2. Would it make sense to make it configurable whether the application should re-scan at startup and scan on demand. Right now it always scans on startup, delaying the startup time.
3. Right now you have two levels of menus - A higher level at the bottom panel ( music / videos / photos etc. ) and a finer level on the side ( YouTube, WorldTV , Videos ) on the side. Would it make sense to have all options only at the bottom 'pull up' panel , thereby releasing some screen real-estate that can be utilized for something else.
4. A software volume control would be good - Among all the other things, this seems to be something obvious that is missing. I am aware that the volume can be controlled with the hardware buttons.
5. Right now the artist option rescans every time the app is run. Why is that ? Isn't it cached, like everything else ?
6. Would it make sense to have pictures of artists just like album covers ? I am wondering what would be a good way for an user to supply their own pictures just like they can for album covers.
7. For the music player - right now clicking on an album expands the tracks along with the list of the albums. Instead of merging the track list with the album list , would it make sense to expand the track list in a separate window, leaving the main album list intact ?
8. For the track list, is there any point in showing the same cover art for each track of the same album ? Instead just show the cover art, and then have a condensed list of tracks that can be quickly navigated ( for example fit on a single screen and scroll only if absolutely necessary)
Once again I am just looking at it from a usability perspective - I am not sure how complex it is to implement all this. Regardless, I would like to say that you are doing a wonderful job with this application, and it is great to look forward to frequent updates. Many thanks for that.
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2008-11-30
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Thanks you for so many suggestions.
Other players scan once and keep the results in a database. But the problem with this is that
the database index can get easily outdated or would have to be updated at application startup as
well.
How long does this initial scanning take for your media collection? And how large is the collection?
It would be possible to store the index between sessions and only update it on demand.
New storage devices can be added as well.
unnecessary screen estate. What should the software volume control look like?
The artists list requires scanning the ID-tags of the audio files. This is more time-consuming than
just scanning for the presence of files, so the tags are being cached. The first time scanning takes
a little longer than subsequent scans.
There's no common standard for storing artists pictures.
The current SVN version already implements a lot of suggestions made by other users. Nice features
that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
Originally Posted by stl1859
Thank you for trying the SVN versions.
Just downloaded the latest SVN version - it is getting better with every release - thanks for that.
Originally Posted by stl1859
Yes, you will be able to change the theme. I think 0.96 will come with at least 3 themes. One with dark backgrounds and white lettering.
1. I like the transparency and dark backgrounds in the latest release. Would it be possible to provide an option to have a dark background and white lettering, or light background and dark lettering ( like now) ?
Originally Posted by stl1859
The initial scanning at startup makes sure that MediaBox has an up-to-date list of media files.
2. Would it make sense to make it configurable whether the application should re-scan at startup and scan on demand. Right now it always scans on startup, delaying the startup time.
Other players scan once and keep the results in a database. But the problem with this is that
the database index can get easily outdated or would have to be updated at application startup as
well.
How long does this initial scanning take for your media collection? And how large is the collection?
It would be possible to store the index between sessions and only update it on demand.
Originally Posted by stl1859
I think the "pull up" panel would get quite cluttered with so many icons. Afterall, YouTube, WorldTV, and Videos are all "storage devices" listed in the video player. There are different categories of storage devices and "video" is one of them. The video player lists all storage devices of category "video".
3. Right now you have two levels of menus - A higher level at the bottom panel ( music / videos / photos etc. ) and a finer level on the side ( YouTube, WorldTV , Videos ) on the side. Would it make sense to have all options only at the bottom 'pull up' panel , thereby releasing some screen real-estate that can be utilized for something else.
New storage devices can be added as well.
Originally Posted by stl1859
The reason why MediaBox doesn't have a software volume control is because it would take IMHO
4. A software volume control would be good - Among all the other things, this seems to be something obvious that is missing. I am aware that the volume can be controlled with the hardware buttons.
unnecessary screen estate. What should the software volume control look like?
Originally Posted by stl1859
It's scans every time the app is run (or a MMC has been inserted/removed) in order to be up-to-date.
5. Right now the artist option rescans every time the app is run. Why is that ? Isn't it cached, like everything else ?
The artists list requires scanning the ID-tags of the audio files. This is more time-consuming than
just scanning for the presence of files, so the tags are being cached. The first time scanning takes
a little longer than subsequent scans.
Originally Posted by stl1859
This would make sense. But I'm also wondering what would be a good way for supplying pictures.
6. Would it make sense to have pictures of artists just like album covers ? I am wondering what would be a good way for an user to supply their own pictures just like they can for album covers.
There's no common standard for storing artists pictures.
Originally Posted by stl1859
This was done to minimize the amount of clicks needed to switch between albums.
7. For the music player - right now clicking on an album expands the tracks along with the list of the albums. Instead of merging the track list with the album list , would it make sense to expand the track list in a separate window, leaving the main album list intact ?
Originally Posted by stl1859
Can you explain this a bit more?
8. For the track list, is there any point in showing the same cover art for each track of the same album ? Instead just show the cover art, and then have a condensed list of tracks that can be quickly navigated ( for example fit on a single screen and scroll only if absolutely necessary)
Originally Posted by stl1859
Usability feedback like yours is very important for me to push the UI in the right direction.
Once again I am just looking at it from a usability perspective - I am not sure how complex it is to implement all this. Regardless, I would like to say that you are doing a wonderful job with this application, and it is great to look forward to frequent updates. Many thanks for that.
The current SVN version already implements a lot of suggestions made by other users. Nice features
that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
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By the way, it seems you´re working out upnp now (playlist is saved!)
Thanks a lot
mackaroni