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#211
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
Because someone might write their own stylus-keyboard program, and then be kind enough to make it available to others. It is annoying as all heck to figure out where to store (and not lose) a stylus that doesn't have a convenient built-in dock in the device.

Now, if you want to suggest building in the dock, but selling the styli as accessories, that is also an option.
nokia's solution on their recent touch phone seems ok, a pecter on a string
 
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#212
Originally Posted by tso View Post
maybe its time someone had a look at getting some kind of replacement going, using the sdk, then? as i do not think nokia will bother doing so because of this thread...
I don't get it. Nokia would not bother making the stylus-keyboard available as an optional download BECAUSE people want it? I think I'm missing something ...
 

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#213
If the UI is completely usable without a stylus, why include one? Why not save $0.10 x (# of tablets)? If it isn't needed surely it is safe to eliminate?
The fact that fremantle itself doesn't need it doesn't mean half of the stuff in extras, Mer, ARM Ubuntu, Android and a whole slew of linked software that *could* be installed on the device doesn't need it.
 
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#214
Originally Posted by mullf View Post
I don't get it. Nokia would not bother making the stylus-keyboard available as an optional download BECAUSE people want it? I think I'm missing something ...
Apparently not the targeted market. I don't know for sure, but I would think some user focus group feedback is also considered before making these kinds of decisions.
 
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#215
Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
Apparently not the targeted market.
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#216
Originally Posted by tso View Post
nokia's solution on their recent touch phone seems ok, a pecter on a string
Why should I need that? I carry my pecker everywhere I go. Though I haven't yet tried using it as a stylus. I'll make that tonight's project. What's the advantage of having it on a string?
 
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#217
Originally Posted by attila77 View Post
The fact that fremantle itself doesn't need it doesn't mean half of the stuff in extras, Mer, ARM Ubuntu, Android and a whole slew of linked software that *could* be installed on the device doesn't need it.
Yes and I can use most/all of those programs without a stylus (not including Mer, Ubuntu, Android) using the menu hard key and dpad. They currently let me go through and make choices in all the menus. Not as easily as a stylus, but doable.

Besides, a new user may never see any of those programs. What Nokia is primarily concerned with is whatever default/stock programs are on the device when I buy it (or reflash). I highly doubt that one of the stock installed programs available on a newly purchased tablet will allow one to download and install Mer, Ubuntu, or Android. Nokia will count on the program developers to update their programs to work within the confines of the new UI.

I sincerely hope the next tablets have a stylus/stylus storage (and hopefully not on a string). I am just concerned that this is an indication of what I consider a serious issue with the UI.

Perhaps some Nokian can forward this thread to Kate or someone else who would have the authority to alleviate some of our fears. Hopefully, the existence/non-existence of a stylus is a silly enough question that it wouldn't give Nokia's competitors any advantage knowing this information prior to launch.

If it has a built-in stylus many of us could rest easier knowing that even if the new UI doesn't suit our tastes we can hack it or replace it without having to worry about losing a stylus or the effect pens, pencils, or other makeshift styli on our screens/screen protectors.
 
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#218
Originally Posted by lemmyslender View Post
Perhaps some Nokian can forward this thread to Kate or someone else who would have the authority to alleviate some of our fears.
Or developers could just get to work with the Fremantle SDK, and users could be better helping them with feedback and ideas to improve their apps.

Really, you are investing too much time worrying in this thread.
 

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#219
Originally Posted by dickcheney View Post
Why should I need that? I carry my pecker everywhere I go. Though I haven't yet tried using it as a stylus. I'll make that tonight's project. What's the advantage of having it on a string?
you can't lose it.
makes total sense actually, and might allow budding musicians to learn how to play digital instruments.
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#220
Originally Posted by dickcheney View Post
Why should I need that? I carry my pecker everywhere I go. Though I haven't yet tried using it as a stylus. I'll make that tonight's project. What's the advantage of having it on a string?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANe0ZWYy-Ac
 
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