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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by coderus
Sounds like a solid choice if you have nothing you like to say or anything you like to read.
okay i'll just ignore this thread and won't post also
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra
That's pretty much the crux of it. There are two strong camps on TMO:
The way I see it, TMO bashes everybody all the time. As we have already seen, it is impossible to please everybody so there will always be "something not good happening around Jolla" no matter how or what they do. If something is not delivered "on demand" at once, it is interpreted as "it will never happen". If something is not going to happen, it's "wrong" no matter reasons behind decisions. Much of that attitude is unfair towards Jolla and unfortunately much of constructive criticism is lost in that loud bashing. So for us that actually want to see Jolla staying solvent and having some patience may sometimes be hard to distinguish that "constructive criticism" from "bashing just for fun/whatever".
- "Jolla is the best thing since sliced bread, there is absolutely nothing they can do wrong"
- "Jolla sucks, everything they do is rubbish"
In my experience, members of camp 1 tend to be more aggresive. But that is no different from any other field: politics, religion, sport, music fans... I guess if people like something, they feel the need to shout twice as loud to drown not just someone else's but also their own doubts.
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2014-12-17
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#214
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Originally Posted by Leinad
Sounds like Mosconi's blog post was ghostwritten by him as well
maybe his account was hacked by Jaden Smith
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by JulmaHerra
No Tizen devices? You have no idea what you're talking about. There are considerably more Tizen devices than Sailfish devices, both in terms of total numbers and SKUs, and this won't change any time soon. There are phones, cameras and watches, and there'll be a hell of a lot more next year ...
There are no Tizen devices around and whole project seems to be more like Samsung's leverage on Google. They make absolutely no money with Tizen.
We'll see how they make in the long run. For example, Red Hat actually withdrew from consumer market because there were no business potential. Ubuntu on consumer side doesn't profit either.
Canonical's largest efforts at the moment are in the consumer space. Firstly, working with AMD / NVIDIA and Valve to make Ubuntu, and Linux more generally, a serious alternative to Windows for gaming - as this is the biggest stumbling block for so many non-professional but still sophisticated users. Secondly, Ubuntu Touch.
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by Kake41
Let's see ... but if one doesn't materialise, it'll seem utterly stupid on his part. The official Jolla account, bijjal, carol chen and others certainly haven't had anything to say. I suspect he blurted out something that he shouldn't have, especially when he made it AFTER the self-imposed cut off described by bijjal previously.
Hmm... Mosconi must be a funny guy and good making jokes if nothing isn't going to happen before XMas...
If the RC is stable so why not opt-in for us unpatient people?
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
Awesome, where can I buy one? Oh
There are phones
, cameras and watches, and there'll be a hell of a lot more next year ...
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by pichlo
Hey you from the middle ground, stop attacking my middle ground
That's pretty much the crux of it. There are two strong camps on TMO:The trouble is, when you come along saying, "Jolla is generally OK, but there is room for improvement," you get immediately attacked by both camps for being a member of the opposing one.
- "Jolla is the best thing since sliced bread, there is absolutely nothing they can do wrong"
- "Jolla sucks, everything they do is rubbish"
In my experience, members of camp 1 tend to be more aggresive. But that is no different from any other field: politics, religion, sport, music fans... I guess if people like something, they feel the need to shout twice as loud to drown not just someone else's but also their own doubts.
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2014-12-17
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#219
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Originally Posted by szopin
- India, shortly, and since the first device is aiming at the ultra low end in this market, it's likely to ship a lot of units.
Awesome, where can I buy one? Oh
I heard that before
- Samsung Gear watches with Tizen number in the millions already.
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2014-12-17
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
If you are referring to NX2000 and NX300 cameras, their firmware is derived from some parts of Tizen code. Only devices (meaning other than smartphones) using Tizen that I know of are Samsung NX1 and Samsung Gear S as Samsung Z was shelved (most likely permanently). Additionally, Tizen is not FOSS but contains many bits and pieces that are under Flora license, which is not compatible with Open Source initiative. Also SDK is closed source. In that sense you are right, there are more devices running Tizen or some derivate - just no smartphones.
No Tizen devices? You have no idea what you're talking about. There are considerably more Tizen devices than Sailfish devices, both in terms of total numbers and SKUs, and this won't change any time soon. There are phones, cameras and watches, and there'll be a hell of a lot more next year ...
Canonical's largest efforts at the moment are in the consumer space. Firstly, working with AMD / NVIDIA and Valve to make Ubuntu, and Linux more generally, a serious alternative to Windows for gaming - as this is the biggest stumbling block for so many non-professional but still sophisticated users. Secondly, Ubuntu Touch.
If the RC is stable so why not opt-in for us unpatient people?