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gianko is offline gianko
2016-09-27 , 11:40
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#221
I started to use the N900 again after one year, upgraded to latest cssu stable 21.2011.38-1Smaemo8 (10.06.2016) but no A-gps fix with supl.nokia.com , certificate expired ?
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Ridd92 is offline Ridd92
2016-09-27 , 12:20
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#222
supl.nokia.com is dead, just like nokia itself. Change the value to:

Code:
supl.google.com
But I still can't figure out what is it all about? Mine n900 got fix under a minute everytime, with no cellular data, only gps, even when I only stick it through the window.

With google supl it's doing the same, mostly under 5 seconds.

But yes, my previous n900 had problems with fixing, no matter if cellular data was enabled. It got partially broken stick on motherboard and broken antena (After hitting the ground really hard).
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sicelo is offline sicelo
2016-09-27 , 12:38
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#223
dead? afaik it is NOT dead and still resolves to a valid address. On the other hand, I seem to remember N900 had problems with supl.google.com after the certificate problem was fixed for supl.nokia.com ... anyway, stopped using supl.google after supl.nokia started working again

as for the quick fixes on yours ... likely the result of ACWP and other variables (ephemeris data?). Take that N900 a long distance away, and not have a working SIM card ... and you'll probably be waiting for a fix for a long time too.

@gianko - supl.nokia.com still gives me near-instant fixes. i am on CSSU-T however, although I believe the certificate fix was incorporated in Stable as well
 

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Ridd92 is offline Ridd92
2016-09-27 , 13:04
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#224
Originally Posted by sicelo View Post
dead? afaik it is NOT dead and still resolves to a valid address. On the other hand, I seem to remember N900 had problems with supl.google.com after the certificate problem was fixed for supl.nokia.com ... anyway, stopped using supl.google after supl.nokia started working again
Ok, not dead, but I'm not sure about the functionality of supl.nokia. Just tested, with cellular data fix takes about a minute, like with no gsm at all. After switching to supl.google got fix in few second in slightly different position.

Originally Posted by sicelo View Post
as for the quick fixes on yours ... likely the result of ACWP and other variables (ephemeris data?). Take that N900 a long distance away, and not have a working SIM card ... and you'll probably be waiting for a fix for a long time too
If I got fix when staying in one spot, then I can turn off the gsm and will have it fixed, even traveling 100km (Checked few days ago) with proper directions and so.

Originally Posted by sicelo View Post
supl.nokia.com still gives me near-instant fixes. i am on CSSU-T however, although I believe the certificate fix was incorporated in Stable as well
I'm on CSSU Stable, there is no problems with supl.google.com on this platform

I'm not sure how it is all working, but it seems that slightly different configuration works differently on many devices. For now(and for me at least), if everything is fine with hardware there is only few if non problems at all
 

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sicelo is offline sicelo
2016-09-27 , 13:14
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#225
very strange indeed. i also tried supl.google a few minutes ago, and because the gps data was mostly valid, the location was correct but 'coarse accuracy' - it didn't lock in 3 minutes. changed it back to 'supl.nokia' and as always, lock was done in less than 20s...

must be that your "it seems that slightly different configuration works differently on many devices" comment is correct, which actually sucks, haha

EDIT: have to add i did these tests indoors
 
gianko is offline gianko
2016-09-27 , 17:07
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#226
Originally Posted by Ulle View Post
It took longer than expected, but since today I get a new certificate for supl.nokia.com
Code:
Issuer: C=US, O=VeriSign, Inc., OU=VeriSign Trust Network, OU=Terms of use at https://www.verisign.com/rpa (c)10, CN=VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3
Validity
    Not Before: May 14 00:00:00 2015 GMT
    Not After : May 14 23:59:59 2016 GMT
Subject: C=NL, ST=Noord-Brabant, L=Veldhoven, O=HERE Global BV, CN=supl.nokia.com
Hope to see you all here again in a year!
With Neo900 of course <wish>,running Maemo</wish>
According to this post the cert for Nokia is expired. I have no indoor fix with only wifi and A-gps. Tried both Google and Nokia supl but no fix. Btw if I ping supl.google.com I have replies but if I ping supl.nokia.com I got 100% packet lost but resolve the IP 54.93.209.220
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Ulle is offline Ulle
2016-09-27 , 19:52
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#227
Hi gianko, the current cert of supl.nokia.com is not expired. It has been renewed in February.
This is the bash oneliner I use to check:
Code:
/usr/bin/openssl s_client -connect supl.nokia.com:7275 2>&1 | /bin/grep -A40 BEGIN | /usr/bin/openssl x509 -noout -text | /bin/grep -i -A1 -B3 "Not After"
Works on N900 and most linux boxes.

For looking after other certificate problems see this post:
https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=101
Try the cmcli commands with your N900 and see if you get "Verified OK".
And for proper GPS-testing I suggest seeing the posts on this page:
https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90651&page=6
and this post:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=31

I dont have any issues with GPS here currently. Using supl.nokia.com with fingers crossed ...

Anyway, glad to see some of you still using their "Apparat" here
Cheers, Ulle
 

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sicelo is offline sicelo
2017-02-04 , 12:34
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#228
Hmm, noticed yesterday that I have problems with supl.nokia.com lately:

Code:
Feb  4 14:32:01 fremantle location-proxy[1297]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket to supl.nokia.com opened, fd=12, verify_res=19
Feb  4 14:32:01 fremantle location-proxy[1297]: GLIB WARNING ** default - host: supl.nokia.com not verified, result: 19
Feb  4 14:32:01 fremantle location-proxy[1297]: GLIB WARNING ** default - Connection to h-slp.mnc002.mcc655.pub.3gppnetwork.org:7275 failed
Feb  4 14:32:01 fremantle location-proxy[1297]: GLIB WARNING ** default - error:2006A066:BIO routines:BIO_get_host_ip:bad hostname lookup
Feb  4 14:32:01 fremantle location-proxy[1297]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket fd=12 closed on request
The device has CSSU-Thumb with openssl 0.9.8zh-1+maemo1+0m5+0cssu0

My other N900, with openssl 0.9.8zf-1+maemo1+0m5+0cssu0 gets quick fix, with exactly the same settings. Here's the log:
Code:
Feb  4 22:11:42 Nokia-N900 location-proxy[1300]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket to supl.nokia.com opened, fd=12, verify_res=0
Feb  4 22:11:43 Nokia-N900 location-proxy[1300]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket to supl.nokia.com opened, fd=13, verify_res=0
Feb  4 22:11:43 Nokia-N900 location-proxy[1300]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket fd=12 closed on request
Feb  4 22:11:43 Nokia-N900 location-proxy[1300]: GLIB DEBUG default - Socket fd=13 closed on request
An interesting thing is - the 2nd N900 never tries to contact h-slp.mncXXX.mccXXX.pub.3gppnetwork.org, whereas the 2nd one does. XXX depends on the operator whose SIM is in the device

cmcli output for both N900 is the same
Code:
cmcli -T common-ca -v supl.nokia.com:7275
1ad16dd494e161abd39bd94ed94bf8eafe4ede28 supl.nokia.com
 Verification failed: self signed certificate
and with both,
Code:
openssl s_client -connect supl.nokia.com:7275 -CApath /etc/certs/common-ca/

...
...
New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is AES256-SHA
Server public key is 2048 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1
    Cipher    : AES256-SHA
    Session-ID: ...
    Session-ID-ctx: 
    Master-Key: ...
    Key-Arg   : None
    PSK identity: None
    PSK identity hint: None
    Start Time: 1486242237
    Timeout   : 300 (sec)
    Verify return code: 0 (ok)
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2017-02-04 , 23:07
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#229
Found the problem

Downgraded all *maemosec* packages to versions 0.1.4+0m5 (had 0.1.5 from devel), and 0.2.3 (had 0.2.7 from devel, and my 2nd N900 has 2.4, but doesn't seem to be in any repos)

Instant fix on my 1st N900 and no attempts to contact 3gppnetwork.org
Last edited by sicelo; 2017-02-04 at 23:16. Reason: correcting the versions
 

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2017-02-04 , 23:22
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#230
Can you update *maemosec-certman-applet* back to 0.1.5 and verify if those packages are not problematic?
 

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