This is all just plain nonsense.

So lets just try to clear some FACTS first, doing an historical review of the last weeks...

1) Exciting announcement about the great NeoPwn2 for N900 coming soon. Most remarkable fact is the explicit mention to packet injection driver, which until now I still have to see someone offer some proof of achievement... But hey, this comes from the BT guys so it must be true and it will come soon!

2) In fact it will come BEFORE BlackHat/Defcon! Awesome! I will be checking the site every day!

3) Just to clear any doubts, NeoPwn posts here that the project is and it will always be an free open project. Great, I almost would prefer to pay something and not having to wait till BlackHat/Defcon but hey, its a free project, so I will just have to wait and perhaps I will donate afterwards anyways.

4) The screenshots are nothing special, and the video is not much different to others I have seen posted by people that thought packet injection was working when in fact it really wasn't.... Anyways... they SAY there's packet injection and thats all I need, if they also do the effort of porting the very few apps that are still missing for arm debian and adding a smart gui, that is a plus.

5) I must confess that when the web site stopped working for several days I thought.... What if they THOUGHT they had injection working and suddenly they discover they don't or that it isn't stable at all and come to a dead end?

6) When the deadline ends, he posts a bunch of excuses blaming other people and the community in general for the lack of support... What support? What did YOU expect?

Either it is all just ******** or you are REALLY WRONG.

Wrong in not dealing all of this other way if that's what you really wanted. At this time, from "the community" point of view you just made a grand announcement and afterwards you just default on it and blame the community... Nothing in between, no requests, no mention of your (even if wrong) expectations, N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

Free open source software is great, but there are many other models that are just as legit. Plain old commercial software is one of them. Not free, not commercial, not anything is another one: Vaporware.

And no, that is not when someone request you to add some features to your software and you don't, it's just what it comes when you announce/promise something great and when the time comes it is far from the promised.

I hate to need to read between the lines, and for sure I may be wrong, but when NeoPwn blames the lack of developers support AND expressely mentions that he did NOT develop the packet injection driver I would bet that:

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1-) Considering also, that he didn't publicly ask for devs help, he needs to be referring to some specific individuals. Someone promised to have the packet injection driver already working or to have it finished in ...a few days I am sure!... but then, after the grand public announcement, **** happens.

2-) He certainly spent hundreds of hours porting most of the tools included in BT, coding a proper smart interface, etc... But he considers that all that is incomplete without the packet injection driver so lets just make some awful excuses, try to blame the community for being unsupportive, etc... He will, if anything, publish his uncomplete (as per initial promises) project but there won' be any packet injection driver (because the author doesn't want to publish it or whatever excuse) UNLESS someone finally comes up with it first.

Again, I may be wrong, but this is the most logical explanation I can find for all this nonsense.

If nothing more, in all scenarios you are culprit at least of being WRONG in your dealing of all this big announcement thing.

Sorry for my poor english and the long post, but I just wanted to express my feeling about something that have really dissapointed me after all this expectation.

Thanks for all your hard work! Despite the users here that are bound to be angry at you and yet have never developed/ported anything of their own, your efforts are certainly not unappreciated. If you start taking donations again, I'd be more than happy to throw some money your way.

I would also be happy to test any beta builds of the chroot environment or individual components, I have the capability to set up almost any attack scenario using my own equipment. Beyond the ability to fix distro quirks needed to port software I'm not very good at development, but I'd be willing to assist in any way that I can.

Has neopwn ported/delivered yet something? I haven't seen anything (except the videos)
What if this was all fake? Take donations and never deliver? Not a bad idea...

Community @ neopwn: "Muahahahahah!"

Backtrack is real. NeoPwn V1 is real. Why wouldn't this?

For this reason, I was planning to donate *After* at least the Beta was released. And I'm sure many other users planned the same as well.

Guys, why not just let this thread die?
If something comes of it later on then great. If not then, whatever.

Though if someone does manage to get hold of this supposed 'injection driver' then feel free to release it.

Switching gears for a minute...

Can we simply copy some of the text-only (CLI) programs/scripts from the full BackTrack version to the Easy Debian environment (chroot) on the N900 and run them?

I understand the GUI stuff of course would not work, but what if we just try copying the command-line programs? Any ideas?

I'm also done with this thread.

You are some of the most daft people I have ever encountered. You want it all, and don't want to put any effort in. Simply based on the shite community in THIS thread, I'm glad that the project is in a stalemate position. I hope some of you never get access to it.

Having said that, it will come out, and when it does you will all tuck your tails and walk away.

You got some sand somewhere? There have been some rude comments on this thread but the vast majority have been supportive. If you are "done" with a thread then just unsubscribe and stop reading it, don't waste my time with your sanctimonious claptrap.

That's true... Maybe the rest could have been left out...