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abill_uk	2010-08-17 , 11:53
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps

Personally, I think most of the people who were able to do anything has jumped ship (as in off talk.maemo.org/maemo.org) already, not completely unrelated to all the idiotic threads now here, instead of constructive ones..

You may well be very right there because all i have seen on this thread is a load of abuse and not one decent answer to the Maemo problems and what could be the way forward, it all gets eaten up by sarcasm and abuse.

How do we get Nokia to release the closed source they are holding on to? what is the best way forward to do this?.

Can we have the FULL os converted to source? including drivers.

johnel	2010-08-17 , 11:55
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps

Personally, I think most of the people who were able to do anything has jumped ship (as in off talk.maemo.org/maemo.org) already, not completely unrelated to all the idiotic threads now here, instead of constructive ones..

I'm really hoping this is not the case!

Some familiar names have definately left the forum but hopefully we might get some "fresh blood".

Considering the n900 has dropped in price and some people here have sold theirs.
E.g:
"N900 does not accurately predict lottery number"
"N900 stops working when submerged under water" or
"It's useless as a house brick"

We may get new members who can contribute back into the community.

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johnel	2010-08-17 , 11:57
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

You may well be very right there because all i have seen on this thread is a load of abuse and not one decent answer to the Maemo problems and what could be the way forward, it all gets eaten up by sarcasm and abuse.

How do we get Nokia to release the closed source they are holding on to? what is the best way forward to do this?.

Can we have the FULL os converted to source? including drivers.

Isn't there a project to get the drivers open-sourced in Meego?

If that is the case and is successful then the drivers can make their way to maemo.

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abill_uk	2010-08-17 , 12:03
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Originally Posted by johnel

Isn't there a project to get the drivers open-sourced in Meego?

If that is the case and is successful then the drivers can make their way to maemo.

AHA i dont know the drivers were going to be given out for the N900 for the Meego project but hell i would love you to find out a bit more regarding this !.

tswindell	2010-08-17 , 12:07
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

AHA i dont know the drivers were going to be given out for the N900 for the Meego project but hell i would love you to find out a bit more regarding this !.

How vein are you? You'd love "him" to find out more about it for you?

What drivers do you want opened abill_uk? There's a request queue for opening Maemo components. Also, the drivers for MeeGo will be just as closed as the ones for Maemo, the difference is they will hopefully continually get updated due to an autobuilder.

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abill_uk	2010-08-17 , 12:13
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Originally Posted by tswindell

How vein are you? You'd love "him" to find out more about it for you?

What drivers do you want opened abill_uk? There's a request queue for opening Maemo components. Also, the drivers for MeeGo will be just as closed as the ones for Maemo, the difference is they will hopefully continually get updated due to an autobuilder.

Because he knows something i dont ! less the sarcasm ok.

A request que is not the answer right now is it !.

	whaleyboy	2010-08-17 , 12:15
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Just for my two-cents, I don't understand all this talk about a "dead OS". Exactly how long do you intend to hold onto your N900? I've had mine since December 09 and have found it to be the best "phone" I've ever owned. I intend to keep it for another year by which time I'll buy another phone which will hopefully be as good as or better than the N900, be it Meego, Android or whatever OS it happens to come with. It seems to me that because the N900 is so open it is the most 'alive' phone on the market today. The amount of customization I have on my N900 puts Android and iPhone OS to shame. I wouldn't care if Nokia never released another Maemo update ever again. They went out on a limb and produced a totally open handset that they knew wouldn't be for the mainstream market and the community has picked it up from there and made it a fantastic handset that I wouldn't change if you paid me. I love Maemo, and as long as it's running on my N900 and I wake up in the morning and see the little 'update available' icon flashing in the status bar it's alive and kicking.

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tswindell	2010-08-17 , 12:15
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Originally Posted by abill_uk

Because he knows something i dont ! less the sarcasm ok.

A request que is not the answer right now is it !.

It is pretty much your only answer for that problem. He told you a vague recollection of MeeGo having the same driver components. If he knew more I'm sure he'd have said. I don't see why that stops you from getting off your *** and doing some reading ..

abill_uk	2010-08-17 , 12:18
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If you think about this , the closed source drivers have to be in the vanilla updates but how do we de-encrypt?.

anthonie	2010-08-17 , 12:19
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"You state this is a Maemo community and we are told by Nokia Maemo is dead and they have moved on to Meego so why is this community trying to keep alive a dead system when the whole world knows Meego is where Nokia are going.?"

I may have some problems with the system, sometimes, but on my N900 maemo is far from dead. I can hear it's pulsing heartbeat, and just yesterday some good person from this forum offered me help, and it made my machine whisper countless "thank you's". Just because a kid is leaving it's parents' house and no longer keeps in touch doesn't mean the kid is dead. My kid plans to stay alive for as long as possible and it will run it's parents software, regardless of whether the parents still contribute to it or not.

Thirdly and finally i have asked Mods alike for a long time now and many people have the same issues as myself with the "blame/flame/rant/pointing-fingers thing going on" (your words) so why after reviewing TMO policy is it STILL going on ? why have are the Mods allowing and encouraging this kind of behaviour on this forum?.

I haven't read the policy as I think I behave well enough to know what is done and what not. But like I said yesterday; If you're not afraid to open your mouth and take some people on, don't be surprised when you get that same thing back. Complaining about that, and especially complaining about that in PM's to mods really, really hurts your credibility. I have been a mod for a popular forum for a couple of years. Never really liked that behaviour...

Firstly it is NOT working properly because the OS will not allow it too as it battles with drivers written and becomes very snaggy indeed.
Secondly the mods mean some track cutting and linking and some quite extensive complicated close eye soldering best done under a mag and the very reason it is not suitable for users in general and i do not want to be blamed for there mistakes !.

I've read quite a few comments already from people willing to take their chances. Why won't you let them? Personally I am not interested but if this were an issue for me, I certainly would dislike the sausage you're holding up to them only to never get them a bite of it.

Please underdstand and respect my wishes as a very experianced component engineer for over 25 yrs because if i say no then that means there is problems OK !

Why is that not mutual? Reciprocity is a great thing. Really!

The way things stand now, and Texrat was right about me being a newbee on this forum, your reputation could really be enhanced by sharing the knowledge you claim to have. Also, it is very, very much in the line of the open source community. I, for one, do not claim extensive knowledge of it all, but everything I have learned about computers and programming, I learned because people were willing to put up with my lack of knowledge and share theirs.