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Plasma Active is getting close to it. If not for manufacturers drivers delay, they'd be already selling the Vivaldi tablet. The UI part is production ready and fully open source.
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2012-07-08
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I am ectastic and speechless. I thought we are dead since Nokia kick us out or let us die. I like to see them succeed and I will contribute if anything I can. I want to get involved. This is a WAR.
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Originally Posted by shmerl
You don't have go far from maemo. As maemo-cssu includes a lot of improved and better rewritten parts from people for free. Open technology is not only better in ideological ideas, but it's faster gowning and financially better
Plasma Active is getting close to it. If not for manufacturers drivers delay, they'd be already selling the Vivaldi tablet. The UI part is production ready and fully open source.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic
Trying to sell open source or nearly open source software has its limitations. I think hardware has to be their focus, but I hope we benefit from the software anyway.
You can buy software *without* hardwareOf course, it should provide some real benefits over stock-Harmattan, but I wouldn't have any problem spending a few dozens of euros on software which prolongs the use of the N9 with say, a year or so.
I think it's stupid to buy new hardware just to get new software, which would run just fine on the old hardware.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by shmerl
ftfy.......
closed drivers are a dead end. They die with companies who create them. Drivers should be open in order to withstand trial with time.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by geneven
I don't know about that, just because Nokia never got it doesn't mean it can't be done. I bet if Maemo had been truly open it would be #1 right now and Android & iOS mere footnotes.
Trying to sell open source or nearly open source software has its limitations.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by shmerl
I could agree if vivaldi was existing for endusers but still it doesnt...
Plasma Active is getting close to it. If not for manufacturers drivers delay, they'd be already selling the Vivaldi tablet. The UI part is production ready and fully open source.
so no we cannot say its ready until we have it in our hands.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by luca
Closed drivers are bad, but getting open drivers seems to be much harder than getting the open UI. UI can be designed from scratch by the community. Drivers require either full hardware specs (non existent in the vast majority of cases), or reverse engineering. The second does happen, but slowly and painfully:
ftfy.......
https://gitorious.org/freedreno/pages/Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6jnBQ2L-A
http://limadriver.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bi8kT2e3f0
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I do find it understandable that they should want to keep their UI closed for differentiation purposes which is why I proposed:
Originally Posted by mrsellout
There will no doubt be closed bits in the platform. One way of keeping people aboard over several device launches would be to allow a trusted group of community developers working under NDAs to update those closed bits so that legacy devices aren't left with a load of WONTFIXes, or FIXED IN $NEXT RELEASEs.
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2012-07-08
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
I'm part of the Jolla team, though working on Mer Core and I can't really say more than what twitter and press releases say.
Ask me anything about Mer though.
However, I'd like to ask one question: How would you guys like the community to look around this?
Originally Posted by Stskeeps
I suppose how the community will look will depend a lot on how a commercial end-product will look--will it be treated the way Maemo and MeeGo were treated? Particularly MeeGo where the MeeGo OS itself was very, very open.. but the end-product (in this case, Maemo's Harmattan--not even a true MeeGo) ends up even more closed-source based and locked-down than previous operating systems and hardware.
Just repeating .. I'd like to ask one question: How would you guys like the community to look around Jolla SW/HW etc?
If it's just more of the same of what we've had from Nokia over the years, I sincerely doubt we'll see anything change in the community around such devices.
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