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2017-05-26
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Originally Posted by lantern
For me it's a big difference, for jolla too. I look at it from a market perspective. Is this just a alpha demo for potential partners or do jolla actually wants attract new end users with this move.
Why do you care?
Even if it's bundled, the first person to buy can dump the whole emmc for anybody with Xperia X.
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2017-05-26
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#233
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There won't be any new users attracted. Open your eyes. Why would anybody prefer Sailfish instead of Android (now! those who wanted already got themselves jolla1/c, intex).
So it's a nowadays HW for Jolla fans and to demonstrate current state to Gov'ts, local telcos and companies.
Don't wait for any breakthru.
So it's a nowadays HW for Jolla fans and to demonstrate current state to Gov'ts, local telcos and companies.
Don't wait for any breakthru.
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2017-05-26
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Originally Posted by lantern
OK, sounds good to me as long as we get the option to receive/donate 2nd part of the refund soon.
There won't be any new users attracted. Open your eyes. Why would anybody prefer Sailfish instead of Android (now! those who wanted already got themselves jolla1/c, intex).
So it's a nowadays HW for Jolla fans and to demonstrate current state to Gov'ts, local telcos and companies.
Don't wait for any breakthru.
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2017-05-26
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@ Lower Rhine
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Originally Posted by lantern
Yes, a break thru with Sony looked possible for like 1 day when Jolla sported the Booth logo and rumors went wild but it became apparent the next day when Sony stayed quiet on questions that they just let Jolla play with their hardware.
There won't be any new users attracted. Open your eyes. Why would anybody prefer Sailfish instead of Android (now! those who wanted already got themselves jolla1/c, intex).
So it's a nowadays HW for Jolla fans and to demonstrate current state to Gov'ts, local telcos and companies.
Don't wait for any breakthru.
Nevertheless, i get asked multiple times a month where to buy a sfos device after i (still) show around trusty old Jp1 during small talk when i meet new folks. Awareness is zero, interest is high after much communication effort (yeah, bad from marketing aspect).
Also i hear from some people who abonedoned jp1 because auf low hw specs, could or want not get Jolla C and wait for sfos on recent spec devices.
Thats where the flashable image comes in.
It should be official with complete features and cost some 10-20€ so everyone mildely interested can get a cheap used XX and try.
There will be no breakthrough, right. Still new geeks want to flash, let them.
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2017-05-26
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Originally Posted by lantern
1. Updates
Open your eyes. Why would anybody prefer Sailfish instead of Android
2. No privacy harmed
3. Not crammed with bloatware: choose what you want (fair)
4. Root access
5. Where are the advertisements?
6. Not willing to pay a company's 70% profitmargin for harming your privacy, cramming it with bloatware and adds.
7 (possible) android support through Alien Dalvik.
At the end, those issues are real. Google has proven it values a profitmargin of 70% on Android over their customers values (privacy, add-loading, bloatware).
If we can all agree on Google intentions, your question should be: why don't people prefer Sailfish over Android?
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2017-05-26
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@ Bize Her Yer Trabzon
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Originally Posted by robnas
I've been using a Sony Xperia XA for about a month now, let me tell you something:
1. Updates
2. No privacy harmed
3. Not crammed with bloatware: choose what you want (fair)
4. Root access
5. Where are the advertisements?
6. Not willing to pay a company's 70% profitmargin for harming your privacy, cramming it with bloatware and adds.
7 (possible) android support through Alien Dalvik.
At the end, those issues are real. Google has proven it values a profitmargin of 70% on Android over their customers values (privacy, add-loading, bloatware).
If we can all agree on Google intentions, your question should be: why don't people prefer Sailfish over Android?
1. Updates <-- Use any custom rom if updates are not coming anymore
2. No privacy harmed <-- Use XPrivacy
3. Not crammed with bloatware: choose what you want (fair) <-- Root, and you can uninstall everything you want
4. Root access <-- You can root Android devices as well
5. Where are the advertisements? <-- Root, and you can remove all ads, even inside apps.
6. Not willing to pay a company's 70% profitmargin for harming your privacy, cramming it with bloatware and adds. <-- See all the points above.
7 (possible) android support through Alien Dalvik. <-- Native Android support, instead of half working dalvik.
I'm actually pretty happy with my rooted Sony XA.
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2017-05-26
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@HtheB could hou diagnose me:
I have iphone7 from work , I have Ipad4 ( got this because needed some apps , some time ago)
And natuealli JP1 , Jolla-c , Aquafish , and JTab. For net browsing I use any other than apple. Am I sick?
For reason unknown the user interface of sailfish just works.
So I don't be amazwd if some one really wants experia with SF
I have iphone7 from work , I have Ipad4 ( got this because needed some apps , some time ago)
And natuealli JP1 , Jolla-c , Aquafish , and JTab. For net browsing I use any other than apple. Am I sick?
For reason unknown the user interface of sailfish just works.
So I don't be amazwd if some one really wants experia with SF
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2017-05-26
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Originally Posted by feedme
I have the solution for you as well: Xposed Edge
@HtheB could hou diagnose me:
I have iphone7 from work , I have Ipad4 ( got this because needed some apps , some time ago)
And natuealli JP1 , Jolla-c , Aquafish , and JTab. For net browsing I use any other than apple. Am I sick?
For reason unknown the user interface of sailfish just works.
So I don't be amazwd if some one really wants experia with SF
With this app, I can use my Android device the SAME as I use my Sailfish device. (swiping from the edges)
Swiping from the sides gets me to the home, swiping up the app drawer, and swiping down closes the running app.
Last edited by HtheB; 2017-05-27 at 08:25.
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2017-05-26
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Originally Posted by HtheB
But does it have python, nodejs, make & autotools & gcc on it?
I have the solution for you as well: Xposed Edge
With this app, I can use my Android device the SAME as I use my Sailfish device.
Swiping from the sides gets me to the home, swiping up the app drawer, and swiping down closes the running app.
The other day last week I needed nmap so I just cloned it from github and compiled on the device...
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