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Originally Posted by w00t View Post
It isn't just the shop.

They cancelled my order claiming it wasn't paid, despite the bank stating clearly and unequivocally that it *was*, and proceeding to keep the payment held for the next week..

I'd be quite happy to have a bank watching over my account to be honest. I'm much less happy to have to run around in circles to try to pay for a £500 device, when every other retailer seems to have no issues in taking my money.
That's pretty dreadful, but I'm not sure who I'd trust Nokia or the bank. Quite a lot of banks would appear to have a corporate policy of lying to their customers, wouldn't you agree?
[guess I'm just cynical of everything]

Moving on from that, most banks don't outright reject transactions. They mark it as pending authentication and tell customers to contact them - Nokia however seem to interpret this as a decline, and cancel t he order as a result.
Yeah, it means Nokia has to ring up the bank to get an AUTH code and insert it in their system manually, quite a few places don't bother with this and treat it as a decline due to the added overhead.
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Originally Posted by garyjoe_2001 View Post
3 times in the last 10 days I have called my bank and they have said it will be ok. Today I get a new Cancekked message. How mad am I. I am trying to give them over £500 abd they keep doing this without even a call. They r saying maby next week. So they must want me to call my bank every day to say I may be charged from Nokia today I dont know If I will though. How hard would it be just to send an email or give a call when canceled and keep the order on hold. What good value they hae for their customers.

If you were to get a diffrent phone what would it be?
Can I ask what bank/card company you used? With my second (cancelled this morning ) order, I again, used Abbey. And prior to it, I made it an absolute mission of mine to ring up Abbey pretty much everyday since my re-order last week, in order to avoid the darn security check decline. Which still happened.

Here's to hoping I'm third-time lucky with my third order (second re-order) today with a Barclaycard Visa.
 
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#233
Originally Posted by deadmalc View Post
quite a few places don't bother with this and treat it as a decline due to the added overhead.
Most places don't bother with that because it is hassle. However, what they do instead is simply put the order on hold, let you sort your card company out, then retry the charge in the same essentially automated way as before. That works very smoothly, is pretty hassle-free, and fits in well with the bank's systems.

Nokia simply cancel your order outright - that is entirely their fault, and it's crap.
 

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ewan's response is more what I meant, yes. I understand that they may not want to deal with it, but as I want my goods, I most certainly *do* want to deal with it, so I don't mind playing ping pong between my bank and the retailer to sort things out.

And, well, I'd trust my bank, given that multiple people there all told me the same thing, whereas whenever I rang Nokia about it, I got a different story.
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I now have a tracking link and shipped date of today's date
 

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Originally Posted by ewan View Post
Most places don't bother with that because it is hassle. However, what they do instead is simply put the order on hold, let you sort your card company out, then retry the charge in the same essentially automated way as before. That works very smoothly, is pretty hassle-free, and fits in well with the bank's systems.

Nokia simply cancel your order outright - that is entirely their fault, and it's crap.
Yup not being able to re-auth an order I think is the main thing that makes this whole process a mess.
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Originally Posted by deadmalc View Post
Yup not being able to re-auth an order I think is the main thing that makes this whole process a mess.
I wonder what we can do about this, really.

I mean, I'd like them to *fix* their retail process even if it doesn't directly benefit me, but Nokia Care (seemingly their only route for feedback) is complete and utter **** - they're seemingly only able to robotically parrot lines from a script and not actually listen to anything you say.

It'd be nice if we could come up with some sort of a plan to bring this to their attention. Anyone got any better contacts than Nokia Care? Perhaps via some light media attention?
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Originally Posted by ae0n View Post
Can I ask what bank/card company you used? With my second (cancelled this morning ) order, I again, used Abbey. And prior to it, I made it an absolute mission of mine to ring up Abbey pretty much everyday since my re-order last week, in order to avoid the darn security check decline. Which still happened.

Here's to hoping I'm third-time lucky with my third order (second re-order) today with a Barclaycard Visa.
I use Cahoot who were owned by Abbey, I think they are all Santander now. I'd also called them a couple of days ago to check it was still there. It didn't make any difference. If you use the same card again ask them to put you on a positive list, it should allow all transactions for the next 30days. (This is what they told me anyway)
 
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Originally Posted by w00t View Post
I wonder what we can do about this, really.

I mean, I'd like them to *fix* their retail process even if it doesn't directly benefit me, but Nokia Care (seemingly their only route for feedback) is complete and utter **** - they're seemingly only able to robotically parrot lines from a script and not actually listen to anything you say.

It'd be nice if we could come up with some sort of a plan to bring this to their attention. Anyone got any better contacts than Nokia Care? Perhaps via some light media attention?
I was trying to find the name of the head of sales for the UK, no luck yet.
 
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Email from nokia:

Thank you for shopping at Nokia UK Online Shop.

The following item/s that you ordered was shipped on 2-12-2009 from our warehouse.
 
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