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Originally Posted by sachin007 View Post
I just unfollowed everything nokia related(except meego). I request you guys who are interested in showing nokia our disapproval of this strategy. I understand that it will not change anything but nothing wrong in lettting nokia know.
Nokia: Gets 10000 new followers, from those who're interested in WP7 and MS developments. Lost 12 from TMO fanboys.

You: Gets out of touch.
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to stop the fire you must use more fire
 
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is there anything we can do about it?....yes you can try putting a paper bag over your head!....(h.h.g.t.t.g.)
 
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
Nokia: Gets 10000 new followers, from those who're interested in WP7 and MS developments. Lost 12 from TMO fanboys.

You: Gets out of touch.
hahaha...

12 from tmo, but how many around the world due to reckless corporate culture that has changed strategy towards closed source os that dumbs down the value of the user?

no matter what os u run ur phone on, unless of course u prefer the phone telling u what u need, a sense of control and personalization is what is craved by users.. making us feel important to the corporations that we pay money to.
how do you think the user base is going to respond to a company that disregards their wants?
average joes as well as tech savvy geeks are quite clear as to what they want. 13%...
 
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Originally Posted by maxximuscool View Post
to stop the fire you must use more fire
hmmmmmm....

wat
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Originally Posted by joelsk View Post
hahaha...

12 from tmo, but how many around the world due to reckless corporate culture that has changed strategy towards closed source os that dumbs down the value of the user?

no matter what os u run ur phone on, unless of course u prefer the phone telling u what u need, a sense of control and personalization is what is craved by users.. making us feel important to the corporations that we pay money to.
how do you think the user base is going to respond to a company that disregards their wants?
average joes as well as tech savvy geeks are quite clear as to what they want. 13%...
13%... I assume you're talking about the share drop?
That doesn't directly represent market interest toward Nokia's products you goof. It's largely investor's expectations to Nokia's short-mid term financial performance.
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Nerd rage is cute
 

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Originally Posted by etuoyo View Post
It is clear that if you are simply a windows phone hardware manufacturer the profit margins are going to be very very small. The only way Nokia will be able to get remotely close to its current level of profits from symbians massive sales is by totally killing R&D budget and by laying off tons of staff. On a human level none of us should see this as a good solution.

Even after killing R&D and cutting jobs I still don't see how Nokia is going to profit much from this. People here always say Nokia makes great hardware but really what does that mean? I think they are great in call reception (and the continued sales of the iphone 4 also shows that people are not that bothered by such things).

In what other way can we say Nokia are great in hardware? Certainly not in looks. The HTC Desire has been out for ages and yet looks a million times better than the N8 which just came out. The N900 looks like a black brick. Some may like that but not the mass market. Windows Phones 7 are all the same in terms of functionality. So how many would really look at a Nokia W7 phone and pick it over those from HTC or Samsung. Apart from fanboys I suspect very very few.
Agree with your first point. Nokia may provide a better Maps App. for WP7 than the rest. Other than that it will be hard for nokia to make a real difference.

Altough I must say nokia can make great hardware, see E-Series, or the N8 (IMO great).

I know the Ovi ecosystem has never really taken off, but it was better than nothing. Maps is great for navigation, Ovi Music is ok, in some parts of the world its big, Mail is not that bad either, just very simple. Ovi Suite is not worse than iTunes.

Overall Ovi was not their problem, but symbian and its software.
Apple does not have their own maps or mail services (right?), nevertheless they are very successful. The only thing apple had was a nice OS and good developer tools (and yeah, iTunes).

IMO from a north american perspective the cooperation makes sense, otherwise I don't see it. Nokia will greatly reduce the value of its brand.
 

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Isn't it funny how this one thread attracts those people? All of them?
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#240
Originally Posted by ysss View Post
13%... I assume you're talking about the share drop?
That doesn't directly represent market interest toward Nokia's products you goof. It's largely investor's expectations to Nokia's short-mid term financial performance.
directly or not, it's telling how the value of a company, be it in financial terms or in market interest, can drop based on the wishy washy, 180 turnaround in the much marketed strategy. that was the point made.
so don't get ur fanboy panties in a bunch..
 
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