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Originally Posted by ysss
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Originally Posted by ysss
I know you know this, but how much more 'user friendly' in the mass market can *nixes become than iOS?
Unfortunately this will never happen on the mass of endusers, unless *nixes become 'user friendly' in the traditional sense of the term.
I will say it for not the last time:
iOS is UNIX
It was the year of UNIX on the desktop over 10 years ago, and now UNIX-based OSes own almost everything.
And Nokia decided to go with Microsoft. Awesome!
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Originally Posted by ysss
According to the Wiki page for OS X, even less than you remember:
What is the marketshare of OSX machines?
It's in the low teens if I remember right, and that includes the PPC based ones without OSX.
As of September 2010, Mac OS X is the second most active general-purpose client operating system in use on the World Wide Web, after Microsoft Windows, with an 8.3% usage share according to statistics compiled by W3Counter.Then again, 8.3% of everybody using a computer on the web is a whole lot of people using Apple's flavor of Unix. And, since Apple's laptops and desktops have been selling like hotcakes, more and more people are learning how to use Unix every day...
(BTW, I just have to mention that I've never used anything but OS X or Linux on my PPC-based machines. I'm fairly sure that most Apple PPCs still out there today are running OS X.)
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Originally Posted by daperl
You're right.
I know you know this, but how much more 'user friendly' in the mass market can *nixes become than iOS?
I will say it for not the last time:
iOS is UNIX
It was the year of UNIX on the desktop over 10 years ago, and now UNIX-based OSes own almost everything.
And Nokia decided to go with Microsoft. Awesome!
iOS + Android is now... what.. nearly half of the smartphone market?
But comparatively speaking, smartphones are still a very small portion of the whole mobilephone market... (right?)
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Yeah, I agree. As an OSX & iOS user (and linux, bsd, opensolaris.. windows..), I've to say that I'm one of the victim too
According to the Wiki page for OS X, even less than you remember:
As of September 2010, Mac OS X is the second most active general-purpose client operating system in use on the World Wide Web, after Microsoft Windows, with an 8.3% usage share according to statistics compiled by W3Counter.Then again, 8.3% of everybody using a computer on the web is a whole lot of people using Apple's flavor of Unix. And, since Apple's laptops and desktops have been selling like hotcakes, more and more people are learning how to use Unix every day...
(BTW, I just have to mention that I've never used anything but OS X or Linux on my PPC-based machines. I'm fairly sure that most Apple PPCs still out there today are running OS X.)
But we're talking in comparison of linux's numbers in super computing, which is in the 90%s. It doesn't have that kind of numbers in any other segments, afaik. (except for embedded network appliances? as I've also mentioned).
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
Well.... I don't know about learning 'how' to use Unix. They are learning to use an interface that sits on top of Unix. It theoretically could sit on top of Windows as well.
And, since Apple's laptops and desktops have been selling like hotcakes, more and more people are learning how to use Unix every day...
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Originally Posted by ysss
You're right, but the new feature-phone is quickly becoming the low-end smartphone. There are $99 android handsets hitting the market.
You're right.
iOS + Android is now... what.. nearly half of the smartphone market?
But comparatively speaking, smartphones are still a very small portion of the whole mobilephone market... (right?)
Symbian is about to have a whole lot more pressure to contend with. Nokia better hope that WP7 is a winning bet, as this Hail Mary may have to carry the company.
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Originally Posted by ysss
Yes, my "UNIX-based OSes own almost everything" statement was wrong, but it felt good. And that's all that matters.
But comparatively speaking, smartphones are still a very small portion of the whole mobilephone market... (right?)
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Originally Posted by ysss
I'm fairly certain that various flavors of Unix also dominate the market for servers, for workstations, and have become extremely popular on mainframes. (IBM officially supports Linux on their hardware today.) The personal computer market may not have adopted Unix whole-heartedly yet, but it sure seems like pretty much any other market that uses a CPU has.
But we're talking in comparison of linux's numbers in super computing, which is in the 90%s. It doesn't have that kind of numbers in any other segments, afaik. (except for embedded network appliances? as I've also mentioned).
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Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt
Uhm, I don't know what you are trying to say here. The "Windows" user interface sits on top of the Windows NT kernel, just as the OS X user interface sits on top of the Mach kernel, and the Ubuntu user interface sits on top of the Linux kernel.
Well.... I don't know about learning 'how' to use Unix. They are learning to use an interface that sits on top of Unix. It theoretically could sit on top of Windows as well.
Maybe you're trying to say that you need to understand how to use a command-line shell to truly "use" Unix? I seriously doubt that most Windows users today have ever learned how to use a CLI, even though every copy of Windows comes with one. Why should an OS X user have to?
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Originally Posted by Copernicus
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying that interacting with the iOS UI is quite far removed from a POSIX compliant OS like Unix. Comparatively, something with heavy CLI requirement would be closer.
Uhm, I don't know what you are trying to say here. The "Windows" user interface sits on top of the Windows NT kernel, just as the OS X user interface sits on top of the Mach kernel, and the Ubuntu user interface sits on top of the Linux kernel.
Maybe you're trying to say that you need to understand how to use a command-line shell to truly "use" Unix? I seriously doubt that most Windows users today have ever learned how to use a CLI, even though every copy of Windows comes with one. Why should an OS X user have to?
My point was simply that the UI is quite separate from the OS -- it almost always is, and in the case of iOS is much more so than, say, Ubuntu, and still more so than Slackware.
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