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	Ken-Young	2015-12-01 , 18:29
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Originally Posted by aegis

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I don't know a techie that still doesn't need a calendar or contacts database that works. Neither of them do currently on Sailfish unless bizarrely you use Google or Exchange. Most of the open source solutions techies desire are buggy or only work in very simplified circumstances.
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Thanks for the tip; I'd never heard of the Android Hacker's keyboard.

I'm suggesting they build a device that would be your second handheld device. I assume the user has an Android or iOS phone as their first device, so it doesn't matter if the calendar software on this second device sucks. You'll use your phone's calendar.

	Feathers McGraw	2015-12-01 , 18:56
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Saw this today, made me think of Jolla:

http://imgur.com/gTN0I7W

aegis	2015-12-01 , 19:08
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Originally Posted by MartinK

No, I'm saying that people are much more likely to contribute to something they can actually use themselves. That's all.

Third "clear goal" on merproject.org

"Primary customers are device vendors - not end-users"

I would say "device vendor" really. I may be speaking out of turn here but have any device vendors wanted to pick up Mer and not Sailfish?

aegis	2015-12-01 , 19:28
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Originally Posted by Ken-Young

Thanks for the tip; I'd never heard of the Android Hacker's keyboard.

I'm suggesting they build a device that would be your second handheld device. I assume the user has an Android or iOS phone as their first device, so it doesn't matter if the calendar software on this second device sucks. You'll use your phone's calendar.

ok. I was just pointing out that Android already makes a good first device AND a good second device. The techie niche you're aiming for is already filled by a consumer oriented device. Jolla would have to go some to beat what is already available for Android even if they just concentrated on making a phone for techies.

It's kind of like how people claim Macs are for consumers and Linux is for techies but IME Macs are good at both. Why would you want something that's only good at a subset of software?

Would I run a Mac server though... er no.

	Ken-Young	2015-12-01 , 20:04
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Originally Posted by aegis

ok. I was just pointing out that Android already makes a good first device AND a good second device. The techie niche you're aiming for is already filled by a consumer oriented device. [...]

Well it may be that if you hunt down the right apps, an Android phone is good for remote system management. I have not done anything like an exhaustive search. But I use an Android phone and IMHO out-of-the-box Android sucks for managing remote servers, so I don't think it's a good second device in the sense I've been using. I'm suggesting that Jolla make a device with everything preloaded and pre-optimized for system management activities. According to the US Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are over 360,000 network and system managers employed in the US. That means there are a few million worldwide. Get >10% of them to buy an expensive Jolla device with their company's money, and you've got a better business model than Jolla has now, I think. Obviously there would be other people besides system managers who would be interested in a pocket sized gnu/linux workstation, as is evidenced by the existance of this website.

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mikecomputing	2015-12-01 , 20:20
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Originally Posted by MartinK

nonono vim is better than emacs

damn right

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	Dave999	2015-12-01 , 20:48
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIyGF-fkd-8

Control the tablet production from there.

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P@t	2015-12-01 , 21:08
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at least some still have some hope:
http://insalgo.com/en/products/aidlab

MINKIN2	2015-12-01 , 23:44
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Originally Posted by P@t

at least some still have some hope:
http://insalgo.com/en/products/aidlab

Damn, that's the best TOH I have seen since Dirks keyboard. Jollas announcements must put a downer on there great idea.

tortoisedoc	2015-12-02 , 06:58
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Originally Posted by MINKIN2

Damn, that's the best TOH I have seen since Dirks keyboard. Jollas announcements must put a downer on there great idea.

Its sad how this is the only other OTHER HALF that can be found (and which actually has a sense).

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