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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by CraigRobbo
"quite small" haha! Processors on mobile devices are tiny, and are practically embedded into the circuit board. It would be impossible (without tens of thousands of pounds/dollars/euros-worth of equipment) to change the processor, and even if you could, the new processor almost certainly wouldn't work as it would likely not be pin-compatible or thermal-compatible with the rest of the design. Embedded and mobile devices are nothing like desktop PCs.
Sounds daft, but i wonder how difficult (or even possible) it would be to put the A9 processor into the n950(that is roumored to have an A8)...Its a bunch of soldering tabs taht are quite small, but is there any more to it or would it be a straight swap out?
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by qwazix
Yeah, perfect. And until some more info will come in, continuing speculations won't help.
Summary of the last 200 pages of this thread
misterc believes that there is no consumer candybar device and says that there is no proof for it's existence beyond NvyUs's, Koajwujwer123,s and zehjotkah's word for it, who are not allowed or don't want to disclose more info, and shady agrees with him.
on the other hand NvyUs, Koajwujwer123 and zehjotkah state that they know there will be such keyboardless device and that it will be addressed to the general public without saying if the developer device will be sold at all or just handed in conferences.
Please, PLEASE, I beg you stop repeating yourselves. PLEASE!
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by shmerl
Its costs alot of money to make HW.
If they respect us, Nokia should produce and sell all options without restricting it to some narrow circle of users.
Especially HW keyboard. Think about the facts that country is using different "layout". Means smaller series (costs more money).
SOC:s also cost alot more in smaller series. And atm it looks both devices is using different SOC:s. If the rumor is correct...
I guess Nokia think that most consumers is not that intrested in hwkeyboard. People prefer "slim devices."
But we can stilöl hope they may do some small series of developer devices possible sold on Nokia Shop maybe? But personally I dont expect it to happen :-/
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by misterc
Naw, i checked with her about it already.. it's cool.
Faustino, you may want to edit this post of yours.
i don't think she is supposed to give you that information anymore then Koajwujwer123 is supposed to post pics of the device he had.
and what he (may) be able to do, NOKIA certainly can
(i'm not saying may because i don't believe Koajwujwer123 works @ NOKIA but because my understanding is that he is probably in Helsinki and it might not be easy to access employee records from the other side of the world.
e-mail addys, maybe...
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
As I pointed out, it differs from use case to use case. Those who type more than usual, don't appreciate doing it on touch screen.
I guess Nokia think that most consumers is not that intrested in hwkeyboard. People prefer "slim devices."
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by shmerl
and if your platform is one of the large ecosystems supported by a large array of handsets then you can afford to introduce niche-interests and edge-cases that round out the ecosystems mass appeal.
As I pointed out, it differs from use case to use case. Those who type more than usual, don't appreciate doing it on touch screen.
if however your platform is not a large ecosystem, and is not the core focus of growth for your organisation, then you service the market in the most economic manner possible by creating the fewest devices that appeal to the largest audience.
the fact that there 'will' be a kbd device at all, post elopolypse, is merely an accident of fate in that a device was put into limited production before the software was stable enough to ship it.
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by misterc
I think I'll stick to my old and proven method of posting.
i appreciate your effort for asking for clarification if you don't agree w/ something i say, but you can take more time to check your replies for spelling (yup) or syntax bullets before posting them.
Originally Posted by misterc
Actually you attacked him after he politely gave an explanation why your claim that the one device would be RM-680 because of the FCC cert could be false. Before that he had answered other peoples question without repeating himself.
again, the reason i attacked Koajwujwer123 wasn't because i don't like what he says (i don't, i readily admit) but because he kept reposting (reformulations of) it with a conviction nearly like he was the one to decide whether that device he had would go in production and become the NOKIA MeeGo device of 2011
Originally Posted by misterc
Well from my point of view you were downright offensive towards NvyUs and Koajwujwer123, and as I see it you're actually the biggest post flooder here, rehashing the same thing over and over again. But I'm glad you found common ground and, aside from the derogatory comments about my spelling, I think your later posts have been ok.
i think Koajwujwer123 and myself found a common ground and i'm optimistic we'll carry on peacefully.
and i will apologize to him apologeticallyif the device turns out to be keyboard less.
apologies if i had to sound very harsh to stop the flood.
speculating is fine, rehashing the same thing over and over again isn't i think
quantity is not quality
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by olympus
Remember some of the stuff has not been said as facts but some may take it so.
damn, this is turning into a nightmare, firstly we were shocked with all the consumer device without hwkb fuss but when we were told that it'll surely have much better hardware we somehow accepted that (hardly) and now day after day we find out that it probably won't.. maybe it'll have even worst specs if i presume that the dev device will have 12mp camera and the consumer device "only" 8mp, not mentioning the hwkb ofc. I mean come on, someone wake me up, this freakin sux.
And just for the record, i'm not blaming you guys who gave us the info, you deserve at least a thank you but omg.. f*ck you nokia, had your phones for 10yrs, even after the shitty n97 i decided to stick with you and bought the n900, the only good device that nokia made in last 5years (thank god that they made at least this one right).. and now when i'm getting really thirsty for a new device it looks that it'll be another f*ckup, well how can you expect it to sell well then? omg that's just stupid, and it's so frustrating, i want to have a new toy to play with and all that is left for me to buy is shitty android, ios and the biggest **** wp7! seems like if i'll always want to have a good phone, i'll have to use my n900 for life.
None has actually stated it has STEricsson or 720p, fullHDMI or whatever. All of above statements was just rumors and guesses.
What maybe is more likely true is:
There is a hwkb handset in a very small serie probadly not meant to be sold for the masses cause it was abandoned Maybe cause of UI was bad and remade takes time and made it impossible to focus on both devices. It maybe was a reason QT-components was closed source in January = refactoring the UI.
And personally I think both devices is using atleast similar CPU. Reason for that is it make it simpler to test core OS.
I dont say I am correct but atleast its not "way of" like some of the rumors in this thread.
Some of the rumors is just "dreams" IMHO.
LIke Dualcore, FullHD etc etc. The HW development seems to be started around Q1/Q2 2010 why the freak would it have DualCore and so on that time? :-O
Just my...
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2011-05-23
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Originally Posted by qwazix
I apologize in advance if it has been said before... But... Has it been speculated that the keyboard device will be Maemo6 and that the keyboardless one will be MeeGo ?
Summary of the last 200 pages of this thread
on the other hand NvyUs, Koajwujwer123 and zehjotkah state that they know there will be such keyboardless device and that it will be addressed to the general public without saying if the developer device will be sold at all or just handed in conferences.
Could that be a possible outcome?
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misterc is trying to temper enthusiasm, and prevent the internet at large which is predominantly dependent on this very thread from spreading misinformation ahead of the announcement. zeh has already been kind enough to retract some of his statements from last week because they were hearsay, K123 may or may not, but the point was to make sure that information didnt get fabricated and disseminated. anything else is just personal vitriol for someone who disagrees with you. take that elsewhere EVERYONE!
asking for personal accountability on the internet is not TROLLING its being responsible.
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