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2009-09-26
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robot wars
PushN900 project have a proposal to build a robot using an n900 as a brain
i think it would be REALLY cool to have a war between Nokia Push robots and iphones and androids!
PushN900 project have a proposal to build a robot using an n900 as a brain
i think it would be REALLY cool to have a war between Nokia Push robots and iphones and androids!
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2009-09-26
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@allnameswereout: ohhhh right. I've been using my iphone to tether my netbook and disn't think how restrictive it would've been the other way around. Yeah, i've stayed away from os3.1 so far. Unclear improvements, unjailbreakable yet. 100% problem for users like myself.
@lcuk: lol that would be awesome. With all the different sensors on board these devices, it'd be very interesting indeed.
@lcuk: lol that would be awesome. With all the different sensors on board these devices, it'd be very interesting indeed.
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2009-09-26
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Finally browsed thru the thread.
About multitasking, if you by default have disabled multitasking to save battery, I don't think that is such a good thing. I mean its like limiting Bugatti Veyron's top speed to 100mph so that it wouldn't suck out all the gas so fast. And then saying yeah it can go 253mph but by default it won't. N900 has the multitasking on by default. Iphone's argument about multitasking is moot, it was not designed for multitasking since they didn't give it a battery for it.
And people talk about how jailbreaking makes iphone better? Pimp My Ride might make a car better. I want better when I carry my stuff out of the store. In Finland we have slightly derogatory saying that furry dice makes your car accelerate faster. If you need to do something to your device after you bought it, can you honestly claim that the design is as good as it should/could be?
Please stop argumenting for iphone's benefit with jailbreaking, since it is then no longer a stock device is it? When comparing these two, if you actually, really have to, compare the devices in the state the maker intended them to be used. Please? Same goes for the multitasking-war.
About multitasking, if you by default have disabled multitasking to save battery, I don't think that is such a good thing. I mean its like limiting Bugatti Veyron's top speed to 100mph so that it wouldn't suck out all the gas so fast. And then saying yeah it can go 253mph but by default it won't. N900 has the multitasking on by default. Iphone's argument about multitasking is moot, it was not designed for multitasking since they didn't give it a battery for it.
And people talk about how jailbreaking makes iphone better? Pimp My Ride might make a car better. I want better when I carry my stuff out of the store. In Finland we have slightly derogatory saying that furry dice makes your car accelerate faster. If you need to do something to your device after you bought it, can you honestly claim that the design is as good as it should/could be?
Please stop argumenting for iphone's benefit with jailbreaking, since it is then no longer a stock device is it? When comparing these two, if you actually, really have to, compare the devices in the state the maker intended them to be used. Please? Same goes for the multitasking-war.
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I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
That that doesn't kill you, is going to hurt like hell. Or leave a scar.
I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
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2009-09-26
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Originally Posted by Soulfarmer
The original iPhone was released in 2007 with ARM11 cpu, and after loading the OS the remaining free ram was around 50MB. RAM wasn't the only limited resource that has to be dealt with, some of the others are: CPU, Screen estate, bandwidth.
Finally browsed thru the thread.
About multitasking, if you by default have disabled multitasking to save battery, I don't think that is such a good thing. I mean its like limiting Bugatti Veyron's top speed to 100mph so that it wouldn't suck out all the gas so fast. And then saying yeah it can go 253mph but by default it won't. N900 has the multitasking on by default. Iphone's argument about multitasking is moot, it was not designed for multitasking since they didn't give it a battery for it.
And people talk about how jailbreaking makes iphone better? Pimp My Ride might make a car better. I want better when I carry my stuff out of the store. In Finland we have slightly derogatory saying that furry dice makes your car accelerate faster. If you need to do something to your device after you bought it, can you honestly claim that the design is as good as it should/could be?
Please stop argumenting for iphone's benefit with jailbreaking, since it is then no longer a stock device is it? When comparing these two, if you actually, really have to, compare the devices in the state the maker intended them to be used. Please? Same goes for the multitasking-war.
What needs to be remembered here is that a large majority of 'multitasking' use by a user is simply 'state saving' an app while you jump to another app, and going back and forth while doing it. Especially on a small device where it's not practical to have both apps open AND VIEWABLE at the same time. This harkens back to the PalmOS which does this beautifully with the very limited technical resources at the time.
As for jailbreaking.. well, it depends on how you view the comparison. If you're just looking at it from conceptual view (as with most fanboys or foss purists), then sure, jailbroken iphones should be DISQUALIFIED from the comparison, because they somehow gotten themselves an unfair advantage (??).
But being a gadget freak, I'm going to look for all unfair advantages in every gadget that I'm getting. Including jailbreaking the iphone when I use it (no big deal). And including using unofficial repos in my upcoming N900 if it gets me nice apps
(Also used some cooked ROMs on my G1, but I'm not too happy with that device).
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2009-09-26
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Yeah, that sounds fair too, comparing devices on the level that they can reach. It is altho different comparison than just comparing published specs. Then again also when comparing how good one or the other device can be when tinkered on, it gets down to personal likings in my opinion.
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That that doesn't kill you, is going to hurt like hell. Or leave a scar.
I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
That that doesn't kill you, is going to hurt like hell. Or leave a scar.
I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
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2009-09-26
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@soulfarmer: yeah, I think it's more relevant for a site like this because there are more 'power users' here than 'normal users', and it's useful for:
a). Someone who is considering what device to get
b). Maemo developers to know what their competitors can realistically do.
Of course you need to put the disclaimers and explain which are default and which are 'optional' (requires jailbreak, custom ROM, unsupported repos or whatever) so people know what to expect.
save the 'stock comparison' for PC World magazine n other sites
a). Someone who is considering what device to get
b). Maemo developers to know what their competitors can realistically do.
Of course you need to put the disclaimers and explain which are default and which are 'optional' (requires jailbreak, custom ROM, unsupported repos or whatever) so people know what to expect.
save the 'stock comparison' for PC World magazine n other sites
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2009-09-26
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Originally Posted by ysss
Very true. I guess I forgot where I was
@soulfarmer: yeah, I think it's more relevant for a site like this because there are more 'power users' here than 'normal users', and it's useful for:
a). Someone who is considering what device to get
b). Maemo developers to know what their competitors can realistically do.
Of course you need to put the disclaimers and explain which are default and which are 'optional' (requires jailbreak, custom ROM, unsupported repos or whatever) so people know what to expect.
save the 'stock comparison' for PC World magazine n other sites
I think one big reason N900 is making so much noise is that people from NIT usage and people not from there collide somewhat with their opinions. ( landscape vs portrait war for example)
But I am happy the way things are, I am getting N900, period.
EDIT: I forgot to mention also that comparing operators and therefore data-plans in just in the US doesn't give full view on these devices. I think that is comparing operators not devices per se. Here in Finland we get full use of both devices.
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That that doesn't kill you, is going to hurt like hell. Or leave a scar.
I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
That that doesn't kill you, is going to hurt like hell. Or leave a scar.
I am not a coder, not a tablet heavy user, N900 is first one for me.
My only asset in here is cool head and common sense.
Stupidity is the thing I hate the most.
Last edited by Soulfarmer; 2009-09-26 at 14:56.
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2009-09-26
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Originally Posted by ysss
Yup, when I was comparing devices when I first got my n800 (n800 vs first generation iPhone Edge [2G now] I think) I was interested in its full potential (including stuff that would require a little elbow grease to get it working). But I would always appreciate the info so I would know how much work was required and how risky it was.
@soulfarmer: yeah, I think it's more relevant for a site like this because there are more 'power users' here than 'normal users', and it's useful for:
a). Someone who is considering what device to get
b). Maemo developers to know what their competitors can realistically do.
Of course you need to put the disclaimers and explain which are default and which are 'optional' (requires jailbreak, custom ROM, unsupported repos or whatever) so people know what to expect.
save the 'stock comparison' for PC World magazine n other sites
e.g. cloning your OS and booting it off the SD card is not something normal users do like jailbreaking the iPhone [though it's easier with the tools provided now]
I'm still considering the iPhone 3GS (or whatever Apple releases next year) vs. n900 but it increasingly is in favor to the n900 (partially because of Apple's insane external water detection devices and also because with each firmware upgrade you gotta fight Apple with jailbreaking). The other being what the n900 offers hardware wise.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-10-07
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2 questions...
what is the RAM and ROM of the iphone 3gs?
I know the resolution of the Nokia is higher but what else makes the screen better does it show more colors than the iphone 3gs?
what is the RAM and ROM of the iphone 3gs?
I know the resolution of the Nokia is higher but what else makes the screen better does it show more colors than the iphone 3gs?
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There is a project which requires jailbreak to unlock it, is in beta stage (Roqy-GPS). Remember that is only the GPS, using SPP. Not BlueTooth PAN or BlueTooth DUN which is supposed to be released 'later'.
So without ugly hacks and jailbreak you'd have to resort to ad-hoc WiFi which drains the battery, or use something like MIFI + iPod touch.
There are many complaints about iPhoneOS 3.1 + iPhone 3GS, including stability issues.
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