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2009-09-25
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So, my intention not to insist on something here or trying to go to polemics etc. I just put some clarification about things which was said before here. And I'm not going to discuss internal Maemo/Nokia things about upcoming products/roadmaps/firmware/ "stolen" phones - a really funny topic, i save this texts for my book/
If you have some question about things which connected to Maemo and other devices/OS, i will be happy to answer. Unfortunatelly, Maemo is not a single OS on market nowadays, more are coming. And some of them are really good and even today arent bad. So may be for some of you such inside will be usefull to prepare apps or features inside Maemo. Who knows?
ragnar
tnx
If you have some question about things which connected to Maemo and other devices/OS, i will be happy to answer. Unfortunatelly, Maemo is not a single OS on market nowadays, more are coming. And some of them are really good and even today arent bad. So may be for some of you such inside will be usefull to prepare apps or features inside Maemo. Who knows?
ragnar
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
Ok you wont discuss where you got the phone. You STILL havent told us here what firmware you are running. and EVERY other person with an n900 had a NDA with Nokia.
So, my intention not to insist on something here or trying to go to polemics etc. I just put some clarification about things which was said before here. And I'm not going to discuss internal Maemo/Nokia things about upcoming products/roadmaps/firmware/ "stolen" phones - a really funny topic, i save this texts for my book/
If you have some question about things which connected to Maemo and other devices/OS, i will be happy to answer. Unfortunatelly, Maemo is not a single OS on market nowadays, more are coming. And some of them are really good and even today arent bad. So may be for some of you such inside will be usefull to prepare apps or features inside Maemo. Who knows?
ragnar
tnx
You can understand out skepticism about the validity of your device.
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2009-09-25
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It's a good thing Maemo is spreading beyond just devices offered by Nokia. It's my opinion that the winner in the long run (in terms of marketshare controlled) will be whoever has their operating system running on the most devices out there. And so far besides Windows Mobile, there's only really Android out there. We need more competition on that front to get people moving.
What Palm, Blackberry, and Apple will do with their devices will be successful but in the long run they won't be holding the most marketshare.
What Palm, Blackberry, and Apple will do with their devices will be successful but in the long run they won't be holding the most marketshare.
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Originally Posted by ysss
They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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2009-09-25
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I would personally rather have a 2011 device made in, say, 2010, than one made in 2009.
(although I would much rather have a 2015 device made in 1989)
Last edited by JayOnThaBeat; 2009-09-25 at 20:31. Reason: too many rathers
(although I would much rather have a 2015 device made in 1989)
Last edited by JayOnThaBeat; 2009-09-25 at 20:31. Reason: too many rathers
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by qgil
Its like I am listening to John Lennon
Brothers, sisters: love, peace and prosperity.
If you notice it, everybody is trying to do their job as good as they can. The Maemo team is working on a great product. Eldar makes reviews based on what he has and no matter what his intentions are it's clear that he puts his best skills into it. All you are great smart dudes that could be just wathing TV and instead you are here squeezing your brain and skills as well.
It's not worth discussing about appreciations that will be obsoleted as soon as the N900 starts selling, no matter how positive or negative such appreciations are. Pre-order, wait, support, critize... Do as you want, what matters is this common interest of making something great with this Maemo 5.
Respect is more important than any bug or any piece of silicon, and ultimately we are all here for the fun of it.
Or at least Paul
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To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by Laughing Man
Speaking of Android. Not sure if others saw it but the largest "custom" rom maker got sent a cease and desist from Google today. Open - not so much ?
It's a good thing Maemo is spreading beyond just devices offered by Nokia. It's my opinion that the winner in the long run (in terms of marketshare controlled) will be whoever has their operating system running on the most devices out there. And so far besides Windows Mobile, there's only really Android out there. We need more competition on that front to get people moving.
What Palm, Blackberry, and Apple will do with their devices will be successful but in the long run they won't be holding the most marketshare.
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
Could you tell us your thoughts about Intel and Moblin, in general but also in relation to Maemo.
If you have some question about things which connected to Maemo and other devices/OS, i will be happy to answer. Unfortunatelly, Maemo is not a single OS on market nowadays, more are coming. And some of them are really good and even today arent bad. So may be for some of you such inside will be usefull to prepare apps or features inside Maemo. Who knows?
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2009-09-25
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You know what's the problem with what you have done, Eldar?
You are (p)reviewing a device that is not running production software (yet). Production meaning the final release that will end in customer's hands on launch day.
Bugs have to be corrected (no software is bug free, ever) and we, in this board, have the reasonable expectation the device will be launched without show-stopping bugs. If it is not, then shame on Nokia.
So you are complaining about issues that might not be in the final release. Well, duh.
Worst of all, you are not helping around either. Since you have a "suspicious" device, you can't participate on the Q&A process that might get your bugs fixed. But you sure are loud about them.
Finally, Nokia has been very open what they don't support on the N900. And we know it won't be a mass success. Do not judge others criteria when it is obvious yours is not the brightest.
You are (p)reviewing a device that is not running production software (yet). Production meaning the final release that will end in customer's hands on launch day.
Bugs have to be corrected (no software is bug free, ever) and we, in this board, have the reasonable expectation the device will be launched without show-stopping bugs. If it is not, then shame on Nokia.
So you are complaining about issues that might not be in the final release. Well, duh.
Worst of all, you are not helping around either. Since you have a "suspicious" device, you can't participate on the Q&A process that might get your bugs fixed. But you sure are loud about them.
Finally, Nokia has been very open what they don't support on the N900. And we know it won't be a mass success. Do not judge others criteria when it is obvious yours is not the brightest.
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2009-09-25
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sachin007
Ohhh. I dont care about other reviews (no reviews on market nowadays, Nokia is not providing units for reviews btw) Next thing, the best way to check stability of that device check crash logs which Nokia received from the vast majority of N900 with different FW/HW. Check such logs for w37 for instance, you will see answer on you question. If you oculdnt check this list, then address this question to person who can do it.
My review was made for mass market readers. The same will be in future, for instance we will prepare article why Maemo wouldnt be a gaming platfrom in next few years. This artilce will be prepared by developer from practical point of view.
Bratag
Again and again. You dont read what I write. I describe that we working with all vendors/companies. It doesnt mean that I'm a part of Nokia team, contractor etc. First of all, I'm journalist and I dont care how bad Nokia hide own secrets.
For ages I have all devices and will have them. If I want make damage to company I could make it. But i dont. Because my plan is more than simple - working on this market 25-30 years more.
Ohhh. I dont care about other reviews (no reviews on market nowadays, Nokia is not providing units for reviews btw) Next thing, the best way to check stability of that device check crash logs which Nokia received from the vast majority of N900 with different FW/HW. Check such logs for w37 for instance, you will see answer on you question. If you oculdnt check this list, then address this question to person who can do it.
My review was made for mass market readers. The same will be in future, for instance we will prepare article why Maemo wouldnt be a gaming platfrom in next few years. This artilce will be prepared by developer from practical point of view.
Bratag
Again and again. You dont read what I write. I describe that we working with all vendors/companies. It doesnt mean that I'm a part of Nokia team, contractor etc. First of all, I'm journalist and I dont care how bad Nokia hide own secrets.
For ages I have all devices and will have them. If I want make damage to company I could make it. But i dont. Because my plan is more than simple - working on this market 25-30 years more.
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So if we were to contact Nokia directly they would know both about you and your device and you would be listed as part of the QA team?