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#251
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
fcrochik, could I ask why it shows Google Voice and TOR in the list of services you can add? o.O
Sure....

TOR is epage's implementation of a "google voice" client as a telepathy account that will "request" a call using the internet (data plan). The Google Voice I implemented works in a different way: it just emulates you calling your google voice number to place a call.... mainly it just "pushes" the keys for you.

TOR can handle SMS while the "call out" version can't. I haven't tested but I would also assume that TOR is quicker to place a call.

If you don't use Google Voice to send/receive SMS (or just have google forward them to your phone number) then the "google voice call out" option may save you battery (it does not need any process running in the background) and will not require any kind of data connection.

The truth is that my implementation is a very low tech solution that was easy enough to implement and quite simple to use. TOR is a much more complex and robust solution... It is all about picking what works better for you...

And just because options are great: you can also set MyContacts to use VICaR to place a google voice call. It will do exactly the same thing that MyContacts does (call and send the DTMF tones) but will allow some fine tuning on what tones get sent.
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My maemo work:
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For Harmattan:
GeePS - native UI around google maps - GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps".
Shutdown - shutdown and reboot with one click - QuickCall - one click call, skypeout and google voice integration using dial tones.
WakeOnLan - wake computers on your local network.
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For Maemo/N900:
GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps". - MobWebMail: browser optimized to access multiple gmail accounts
MyContacts: 75 Contacts on your desktop, ring tones per group and more - GeePS: native front-end for google maps
Macuco2 : web browser to access web sites optimized for the iphone - WakeOnLan: wake up computers on your local network
dbBrowser: Simple application to browse sqlite databases
 

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#252
Originally Posted by fcrochik View Post
Sure....

TOR is epage's implementation of a "google voice" client as a telepathy account that will "request" a call using the internet (data plan). The Google Voice I implemented works in a different way: it just emulates you calling your google voice number to place a call.... mainly it just "pushes" the keys for you.
When using VICaR and Google Voice (Non-TOR option) you will be charged by your Mobile operator for calling your GV number. With TOR you are getting charged for data. So you can choose which one is suitable for your needs.
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#253
I noticed a problem with custom ringtones for groups in the newest version of the app. When they stopped working i looked at the log. Here is what is in it:
Code:
(DBG) coming call:  "+35988xxxxxxx"
(DBG) Contact in group  "Family"  =  "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/warren_G.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/warren_G.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(DBG) call answered
(DBG) call disconnected
(DBG) call terminated
(DBG) "call terminated - reseting symlink to /home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(DBG) coming call:  "+35988xxxxxxx"
(DBG) Contact in group  "Family"  =  "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/warren_G.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/warren_G.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(DBG) call terminated
(DBG) "call terminated - reseting symlink to /home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(DBG) coming call:  "+35988yyyyyyy"
(DBG) Contact in group  "Friends"  =  "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/NokiaTune.aac.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/MyDocs/.sounds/Ringtones/NokiaTune.aac.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(DBG) call terminated
(DBG) "call terminated - reseting symlink to /home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav"
(DBG) "create symbolic link: ln -sf "/home/user/.mycontacts/general.wav" /home/user/.local/share/sounds/Crochik-general.wav.wav"
(CRT) Ring tone was changed. File is probably busy righ now.... not managing ring tone anymore
(DBG) style:   "QListView#not {
    border: 2px solid red;
}

QListView#selected {
    font-size: 15px;
    border: 2px solid green;
}

"
(DBG) Shortcut does not exist
(DBG) Saving settings:
(DBG) Saving settings:
(DBG) Saving settings:
(DBG) Saving settings:
(DBG) coming call:  "+35988xxxxxxx"
(DBG) call answered
(DBG) call disconnected
As I can see from this line:"(CRT) Ring tone was changed. File is probably busy righ now.... not managing ring tone anymore" due to some problem MyContacts stopped managing ringtones. What can be the issue?

PS. Number xxxxxxx in one and same in every call.
 
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#254
Originally Posted by zlatko View Post
As I can see from this line:"(CRT) Ring tone was changed. File is probably busy righ now.... not managing ring tone anymore" due to some problem MyContacts stopped managing ringtones. What can be the issue?

PS. Number xxxxxxx in one and same in every call.
Have you tried to change the "profile ring tone" while mycontacts was running?

That is what the application detected.

If you "shutdown" the application from the menu and start again everything should be "good" again... For now anytime you want to change the "default" ring tone you need to make sure to first shutdown mycontacts.

Let me know if restarting the application fixes the issue.
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My maemo work:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Harmattan:
GeePS - native UI around google maps - GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps".
Shutdown - shutdown and reboot with one click - QuickCall - one click call, skypeout and google voice integration using dial tones.
WakeOnLan - wake computers on your local network.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Maemo/N900:
GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps". - MobWebMail: browser optimized to access multiple gmail accounts
MyContacts: 75 Contacts on your desktop, ring tones per group and more - GeePS: native front-end for google maps
Macuco2 : web browser to access web sites optimized for the iphone - WakeOnLan: wake up computers on your local network
dbBrowser: Simple application to browse sqlite databases
 
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#255
fcrochik

Can i first say what a brilliant app this is. However, whenever i restart i lose the widget, you know the actual box with the Contacts and friends faces!

Looked through all the thread and cant see how to have that loaded on a desktop when the phone starts.

Help
 
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#256
Originally Posted by fcrochik View Post
Sure....

TOR is epage's implementation of a "google voice" client as a telepathy account that will "request" a call using the internet (data plan). The Google Voice I implemented works in a different way: it just emulates you calling your google voice number to place a call.... mainly it just "pushes" the keys for you.

TOR can handle SMS while the "call out" version can't. I haven't tested but I would also assume that TOR is quicker to place a call.

If you don't use Google Voice to send/receive SMS (or just have google forward them to your phone number) then the "google voice call out" option may save you battery (it does not need any process running in the background) and will not require any kind of data connection.

The truth is that my implementation is a very low tech solution that was easy enough to implement and quite simple to use. TOR is a much more complex and robust solution... It is all about picking what works better for you...

And just because options are great: you can also set MyContacts to use VICaR to place a google voice call. It will do exactly the same thing that MyContacts does (call and send the DTMF tones) but will allow some fine tuning on what tones get sent.
Thanks for the explanation. I was just wondering what the difference between the two was. Especially since Google Voice doesn't show up for SMS, but TOR did lol.
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They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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#257
Originally Posted by Madboy View Post
fcrochik

Can i first say what a brilliant app this is. However, whenever i restart i lose the widget, you know the actual box with the Contacts and friends faces!

Looked through all the thread and cant see how to have that loaded on a desktop when the phone starts.

Help
OK....I give up... After such nice words I couldn't bring myself to say again that you just can't ...

I went looking and found an easy work around: create a file called mycontacts on /etc/event.d with these contents

Code:
description "starts MyContacts"

start on started hildon-desktop

#respawn

console none

script
 exec su - user -c "exec /opt/crochik/mycontacts"
end script
Notes:
  • Thanks venemo for the "script" (I just copied what he has for sticky notes).
  • You have to create the file as root
  • If you remove the "#" from the respwan line the application will restart automatically (you won't be able to get rid of it). With the "#" it will start every time you restart the phone and you will still be able to stop it by selecting "shutdown"
  • By running the application like this you the application will not update the log file - I will change this on a future release.
  • If you decide that you don't want mycontacts to start automatically you will need to remove the file manually... and if, for any reason, you decide to uninstall mycontacts you should first remove this file.
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My maemo work:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Harmattan:
GeePS - native UI around google maps - GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps".
Shutdown - shutdown and reboot with one click - QuickCall - one click call, skypeout and google voice integration using dial tones.
WakeOnLan - wake computers on your local network.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Maemo/N900:
GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps". - MobWebMail: browser optimized to access multiple gmail accounts
MyContacts: 75 Contacts on your desktop, ring tones per group and more - GeePS: native front-end for google maps
Macuco2 : web browser to access web sites optimized for the iphone - WakeOnLan: wake up computers on your local network
dbBrowser: Simple application to browse sqlite databases

Last edited by fcrochik; 2010-08-04 at 20:54.
 

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#258
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
Thanks for the explanation. I was just wondering what the difference between the two was. Especially since Google Voice doesn't show up for SMS, but TOR did lol.
Just saw this post. It seems that soon enough you will have one more option for google voice calls on mycontacts.
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My maemo work:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Harmattan:
GeePS - native UI around google maps - GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps".
Shutdown - shutdown and reboot with one click - QuickCall - one click call, skypeout and google voice integration using dial tones.
WakeOnLan - wake computers on your local network.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Maemo/N900:
GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps". - MobWebMail: browser optimized to access multiple gmail accounts
MyContacts: 75 Contacts on your desktop, ring tones per group and more - GeePS: native front-end for google maps
Macuco2 : web browser to access web sites optimized for the iphone - WakeOnLan: wake up computers on your local network
dbBrowser: Simple application to browse sqlite databases
 
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#259
May I recommend grouping them?

Like..

GV - Google Voice
GV - TOR
GV - qgvdial
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Originally Posted by ysss View Post
They're maemo and MeeGo...

"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
 
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#260
Originally Posted by Laughing Man View Post
May I recommend grouping them?

Like..

GV - Google Voice
GV - TOR
GV - qgvdial
I can only "rename" the ones that I implemented directly (right now only "google voice dial out")... I will also be able to name the "qgvdial" any way I want... all the others (including TOR) will use whatever is the "Display Name" assigned to the telepathy account - the beauty of telepathy is that I don't actually need to know what accounts are available so I don't want to have to hard code anything about them. I hope it makes sense...
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My maemo work:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Harmattan:
GeePS - native UI around google maps - GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps".
Shutdown - shutdown and reboot with one click - QuickCall - one click call, skypeout and google voice integration using dial tones.
WakeOnLan - wake computers on your local network.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For Maemo/N900:
GApp - access to optimized mobile "google apps". - MobWebMail: browser optimized to access multiple gmail accounts
MyContacts: 75 Contacts on your desktop, ring tones per group and more - GeePS: native front-end for google maps
Macuco2 : web browser to access web sites optimized for the iphone - WakeOnLan: wake up computers on your local network
dbBrowser: Simple application to browse sqlite databases
 
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