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2013-10-02
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Originally Posted by Rauha
An Angry Birds Other Half would be pretty cool, and very marketable. It would also be a nice touch, if I'm not mistaken, the first platform they ported AB (from iOS) to was fremantle in 2010.
Thats like saying that Mickey Mouse is an old comic.
Rovio has turned it into the 2nd biggest license platform on the planet. Only Disney pushes more crap (toys, candy, whatever) than Rovio does. Its hugely popular and way beyond being just an old game.
I don't care about Angry Birds products either, but Rovio is huge and getting them on the sail boat would be a huge opportunity for Jolla. It alone would get them extra sales and - even more importantly - other big boys might follow Rovio's lead.
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2013-10-02
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#253
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Maybe that's part of the point? To lure users to use/lobby for native Sailfish applications, while not restricting the user from accessing their favourite ones that otherwise aren't available?
But 1gb, true multi-tasking + Android compatibility is where my concern for the 1gb of RAM comes in.
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2013-10-02
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@ Germany
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
It would be quite dumb for jolla to intentionally cripple the android experience in order to promote native app development.
Maybe that's part of the point? To lure users to use/lobby for native Sailfish applications, while not restricting the user from accessing their favourite ones that otherwise aren't available?
I think on older android versions the memory limit for dalvik processes is 24MB or so anyhow, only native code can exceed this. Don't know about recent android versions, and wether jolla will support native code as well.
So 1Gb doesn't seem to be unuseable low, even with a couple of android apps running.
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2013-10-02
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Originally Posted by Oblomow
I agree with your other points, but I didn't mean what you understood :-) I don't think that Jolla will _intentionally_ cripple Android applications, but it will certainly not:
It would be quite dumb for jolla to intentionally cripple the android experience in order to promote native app development.
- Stick 16GB of RAM to run them competitively
- Hack them so that you get the Sailfish experience (you know, all those buttons in the multitasking window et al)
Marc said already that "if you want the full Sailfish experience, you'll have to use native app[lication]s".
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2013-10-02
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Weeeelll I am not going to run any Android crap on my device if I can avoid it[*], so that should not be any limit for me.
My only fear about the 1gb is how will ACL respect that because those apps are normally bloated and that's without adding in the actual process for compatibility.
MeeGo was crazy efficient. So I can assume that SailfishOS is as well. But 1gb, true multi-tasking + Android compatibility is where my concern for the 1gb of RAM comes in.
[*] Unfortunately it looks like I am going to have to run at least one piece of Android crap on my device.... Just today I learnt that the bloody cheapskates IT-fscking parasites have made a decision to revoke all RSA-hardtokens, "because they are too expensive to maintain"
What this means is I have to run a RSA-softtoken to get VPNC to my office... and the supported platforms are M$, iOS, Symbian & Android, not Linux, not Harmattan, not Sailfish
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2013-10-02
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Originally Posted by juiceme
You need just to use google search
Weeeelll I am not going to run any Android crap on my device if I can avoid it[*], so that should not be any limit for me.
[*] Unfortunately it looks like I am going to have to run at least one piece of Android crap on my device.... Just today I learnt that the bloody cheapskates IT-fscking parasites have made a decision to revoke all RSA-hardtokens, "because they are too expensive to maintain"
What this means is I have to run a RSA-softtoken to get VPNC to my office... and the supported platforms are M$, iOS, Symbian & Android, not Linux, not Harmattan, not Sailfish
http://smallhacks.wordpress.com/2013...en-from-linux/
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2013-10-02
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#258
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Originally Posted by rainisto
Tusen Tack!!
You need just to use google search
http://smallhacks.wordpress.com/2013...en-from-linux/
I have to admit I even never tried searching for solution, jost got it given it would not work....
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2013-10-02
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@ Germany
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
Maybe I understood you wrong a bit intentionally.
I agree with your other points, but I didn't mean what you understood :-) I don't think that Jolla will _intentionally_ cripple Android applications, but it will certainly not:
- Stick 16GB of RAM to run them competitively
- Hack them so that you get the Sailfish experience (you know, all those buttons in the multitasking window et al)
Marc said already that "if you want the full Sailfish experience, you'll have to use native app[lication]s".
Yes, it's supposed to be a sailfish device, not a better android phone, so optimizing android will not (and should not) be their primary goal. But I don't understand Marc's quote in a way that android apps will feel much worse on a jolla device compared to a mid-end android*, but that they will feel worse compared to sailfish applications. *for apps that do not deeply integrate with the system, but that's where one would use native stuff anyhow. But for many standard-apps it should work well enough, and it's of great value actually, think local public transport/online ticket apps for example, highly unlikely to get ported to sailfish (except for Finland maybe).
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2013-10-02
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@ Finland
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Originally Posted by mrsellout
The good old days... Here at TMO was even quite active presence from Rovio discussing the Angry Birds port of Fremantle.
It would also be a nice touch, if I'm not mistaken, the first platform they ported AB (from iOS) to was fremantle in 2010.
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