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Very worrying behaviour that should be either off by default or at least toggable in 'My profile':
That popup at the top about updates? I always assumed clicking it will take you to the updates page to make the decision. Since it never worked as I assumed, left it for the 5 seconds today and to my surprise it went and installed new updates without any interaction... wth? If someone pushes bricking update and connection lagged when someone started warehouse and then went to make a tea in the kitchen he would return to a bricked Jolla. Not cool. Please make it 'opt in'. Current behaviour (installing things without any active confirmation from user, passive 5 second cancel is fine when action was started by the user) some would classify as malware.
(sorry if above is harsh sounding, love the app please keep at it, awesome stuff. Would love to see this -devel thing replacing our extras-testing, as we have now Jolla store which would be real tested extras + all the untested stuff in Warehouse as -devel, why not make a sub-selection of apps that got enough thumbs ups/positive feedback from people installing it that would work like extras-testing? Positive feedback = not bricking, not yet ready for Jolla store, but people tested/liked it? We'd be back in N900 heaven (then again, ghost accounts thumbing up en masse to push malware as -testing could be a concern...))
That popup at the top about updates? I always assumed clicking it will take you to the updates page to make the decision. Since it never worked as I assumed, left it for the 5 seconds today and to my surprise it went and installed new updates without any interaction... wth? If someone pushes bricking update and connection lagged when someone started warehouse and then went to make a tea in the kitchen he would return to a bricked Jolla. Not cool. Please make it 'opt in'. Current behaviour (installing things without any active confirmation from user, passive 5 second cancel is fine when action was started by the user) some would classify as malware.
(sorry if above is harsh sounding, love the app please keep at it, awesome stuff. Would love to see this -devel thing replacing our extras-testing, as we have now Jolla store which would be real tested extras + all the untested stuff in Warehouse as -devel, why not make a sub-selection of apps that got enough thumbs ups/positive feedback from people installing it that would work like extras-testing? Positive feedback = not bricking, not yet ready for Jolla store, but people tested/liked it? We'd be back in N900 heaven (then again, ghost accounts thumbing up en masse to push malware as -testing could be a concern...))
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2014-01-22
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Originally Posted by szopin
It does exactly what you assumed. But since this is a remorse item, if you click, page won't open, and if you wait, it will be opened.
Very worrying behaviour that should be either off by default or at least toggable in 'My profile':
That popup at the top about updates? I always assumed clicking it will take you to the updates page to make the decision.
Warehouse does not install or update anything automatically. The only thing is enabling self-update channel (adding own repository for updates) at startup.
Originally Posted by szopin
This could not happen.
Since it never worked as I assumed, left it for the 5 seconds today and to my surprise it went and installed new updates without any interaction... wth?
Please take a look at post #213.
Update popup is only a shortcut to page "Available updates" which can be opened as -> "My Profile" -> "Show updates".
Even when you are at "Updates", you have to manually select packages for update, and wait extra remorse timeout for action to be queued and executed.
Originally Posted by szopin
Those subsections will be done in future, with extra marks like 'Harbour tests passed' or whatever else will be implemented.
why not make a sub-selection of apps that got enough thumbs ups/positive feedback from people installing it that would work like extras-testing? Positive feedback = not bricking, not yet ready for Jolla store, but people tested/liked it? We'd be back in N900 heaven (then again, ghost accounts thumbing up en masse to push malware as -testing could be a concern...))
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2014-01-22
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#264
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Originally Posted by Custodian
But it did, I opened warehouse, waited for the 5 second banner to disappear but it went into updates page and the 'current action' display was already running, few seconds later there were no updates available.
This could not happen.
edit: the other possibility is warehouse triggering update banner and activity reporting on Jolla store's activity, which was updating kitchen timer around that time, maybe warehouse thought it was its pkcon process running, will test when another update shows up
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2014-01-22
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Originally Posted by szopin
That's exactly what happend. As I mentioned before, warehouse(at it current version) display whole package kit queue. So if you start install/uninstall/update/refresh from store or even console, warehouse will display, that there is already pending actions, that should be completed.
edit: the other possibility is warehouse triggering update banner and activity reporting on Jolla store's activity, which was updating kitchen timer around that time, maybe warehouse thought it was its pkcon process running, will test when another update shows up
In future version, all queued transcations will be named, so you will be able to see, what exactly is queued, and will be executed.
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2014-01-22
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Thanks, the behaviour was exactly as if warehouse triggered the install messages itself after no reaction to banner, and then no updates available screen just to reassure one it's all done, bit worrying. Glad it was just a misdirection, like with the banner 
Why not have it the other way around, if you want those updates clicking should get you there, waiting doesn't make sense, if you don't want to you just keep scrolling through the list for 5 seconds ignoring it, for me seems kinda backwards
Why not have it the other way around, if you want those updates clicking should get you there, waiting doesn't make sense, if you don't want to you just keep scrolling through the list for 5 seconds ignoring it, for me seems kinda backwards
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2014-01-22
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Originally Posted by szopin
It's all becouse of default remorse item have 'Tap to cancel' sign under the main text. Need to reimplement it, so it will be used as expected: "tap to proceed"
if you want those updates clicking should get you there, waiting doesn't make sense, if you don't want to you just keep scrolling through the list for 5 seconds ignoring it, for me seems kinda backwards
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2014-01-26
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#268
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Minor update Warehouse for SailfishOS v0.2-10
Minor UI improvements, extended app info: votes and downloads count, all transactions in queue should be named, so you will know what is going on here.
If any updates available, popup will be shown, with notice "Tap to proceed". It will open updates page, If clicked.
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Sometimes, on my N9, list scrolling of recent apps freezes and hangs the entire application (with 100% cpu usage). Please test with real jphone, if this really occurs, or just my problem.
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Minor UI improvements, extended app info: votes and downloads count, all transactions in queue should be named, so you will know what is going on here.
If any updates available, popup will be shown, with notice "Tap to proceed". It will open updates page, If clicked.
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- 1) Downloads count and votes count at application info
- 2) Shortcut for "check updates" added to pull menu.
- 3) If update already queued, it will be shown with busy indicator
- 4) Profile page shows all queued transactions at package kit. No more unnamed "pending" info
Sometimes, on my N9, list scrolling of recent apps freezes and hangs the entire application (with 100% cpu usage). Please test with real jphone, if this really occurs, or just my problem.
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2014-01-26
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#269
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Originally Posted by Custodian
Yes, this happens on Jolla (but not on jphone) as well, but it doesn't show any error messages in the terminal. All you need to reproduce is to scroll fast up and down.
Sometimes, on my N9, list scrolling of recent apps freezes and hangs the entire application (with 100% cpu usage). Please test with real jphone, if this really occurs, or just my problem.
Thanks for the update though!
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2014-01-26
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Originally Posted by nodevel
It's a pity. Bugs in Qt5+Silica are huge pain
Yes, this happens on Jolla (not jphone though) as well, but it doesn't show any error messages in the terminal. All you need to reproduce is to scroll fast up and down.
I'll remove update for now. Will release 0.2-11 when fixed.
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