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	krisse	2009-08-28 , 19:23
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Originally Posted by Rebski

Funny, a short while back weren't we insisting that it was a matter of physical specification? e.g. a screen bigger than 3.5".

This is not just my view but appeared to be the consensus on the forum esp. when comparison was being made to the iPhone.

Where does that 3.5" figure come from? Who decided on it?

Whoever did decide on it did so as a matter of taste, because there's no significant functional difference between a 3.6" screen and a 3.4" screen.

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	krisse	2009-08-28 , 19:29
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Originally Posted by fpp

Price, maybe ?

The N900 is roughly the same price as the N810 and N800, both of which were approx 400-500 euros when they launched in Europe. The N810 is 200 euros now, but that's two years down the line.

The US price probably won't be 500 euros, manufacturers usually reduce the price quite significantly for the American market for various reasons.

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	benny1967	2009-08-28 , 19:37
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Originally Posted by krisse

It does all the same functions as an internet tablet but it has a slightly smaller screen and a cellular radio transmitter.

I'd say this is still speculation. As long as I haven't checked the N900 for each and every function I use on my N810 regularly, I'm not convinced. It simply doesn't look like it could perform all these tasks.

(And note how I say "functions I use regularly"... I'm not even starting to think about what an N810 does every now and then.)

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Matan	2009-08-28 , 19:52
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Originally Posted by krisse

The N900 is roughly the same price as the N810 and N800, both of which were approx 400-500 euros when they launched in Europe. The N810 is 200 euros now, but that's two years down the line.

No, it is not. The N900 will cost about 600 Euro according to the information we have. In much of Europe it is not common (and illegal in some places) to quote prices excluding VAT. The 400-500 figure you provide includes VAT, while the "about 500" figure for the N900 specifically excludes VAT.

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	krisse	2009-08-28 , 20:50
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Originally Posted by Matan

No, it is not. The N900 will cost about 600 Euro according to the information we have. In much of Europe it is not common (and illegal in some places) to quote prices excluding VAT. The 400-500 figure you provide includes VAT, while the "about 500" figure for the N900 specifically excludes VAT.

Okay, maybe not exactly the same but that's still pretty close. :-)

The full price of the N810 at launch including typical european tax was close to 500 euros. The N900 would probably be close to 600 including typical european taxes. Those are fairly similar prices, both well into the high end.

I was mainly trying to emphasise that the price of the N810 now (about 200 - 250 euros including taxes) isn't really representative of the N810's launch price. I bet the N900 will cost 200 euros two years after its launch.

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	krisse	2009-08-28 , 20:52
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Originally Posted by benny1967

I'm not convinced. It simply doesn't look like it could perform all these tasks.

...such as?

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	fpp	2009-08-28 , 21:42
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Originally Posted by krisse

The N900 is roughly the same price as the N810 and N800, both of which were approx 400-500 euros when they launched in Europe.

Uh-uh. In France the 770, N800 and N810 were respectively 349, 399 and 449€ at launch, *tax included*.

I've repeatedly seen the N900 quoted at 649€ here, although I couldn't track the source. That's not "roughly the same" to me.

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Rebski	2009-08-28 , 22:11
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By Nokia's own definition it is NOT an "internet tablet" it is a "mobile computer"

Nokia's PR department can call it what they want but it is a mobile phone and will be purchased, by and large, as such. i.e. subsidised by a network provider under a fixed term contract.

The decision potential customers will make is whether they prefer it to an iPhone, Palm Pre or whatever else that should be available.

Whoever did decide on it did so as a matter of taste, because there's no significant functional difference between a 3.6" screen and a 3.4" screen.

Maybe not but there is a significant difference between a 3.4" screen and a 4.3" screen. Generally speaking, the definition of an Internet Tablet that was pedantically debated on this forum overlapped with that of the Intel MID spec. which is clearly defined as regards the screen size.

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	krisse	2009-08-28 , 23:32
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Uh-uh. In France the 770, N800 and N810 were respectively 349, 399 and 449€ at launch, *tax included*.

I've repeatedly seen the N900 quoted at 649€ here, although I couldn't track the source. That's not "roughly the same" to me.

Point taken.

449 and 649 are much closer than 250 and 649 though, which is the main point I think I was trying to make.

Generally speaking, the definition of an Internet Tablet that was pedantically debated on this forum overlapped with that of the Intel MID spec. which is clearly defined as regards the screen size.

The thing is, manufacturers and suppliers often use definitions as convenient marketing labels rather than technical standards.

For example the N95 is defined by Nokia as a "multimedia computer" while the 6220 is defined by Nokia as a "mobile phone". They're pretty much the same device, but they've been categorised differently for marketing purposes.

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	penguinbait	2009-09-27 , 16:33
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