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Ah I haven't read that yet (I have a huge RSS Feed backlog >.<). What a shame. -_-
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Eldar thanks for registering and clarifying your thoughts. Many users on this board are passionate about maemo (myself included) and have been using tablets for a long time and have not experienced the stability issues you are describing. We will have to see with final shipping firmware how this all pans out.
On your other point on the mainstream reaction to the N900 I tend to agree with you that the mainstream will not react to it in the way many here are expecting/hoping. The potential for improvement is there and built-in seamless OTA updates will make this process to upgrade easy for EVERY enduser. As you rightly state the hardware is great and the software is being worked on everyday so I have high hopes for the future of the platform.
On your other point on the mainstream reaction to the N900 I tend to agree with you that the mainstream will not react to it in the way many here are expecting/hoping. The potential for improvement is there and built-in seamless OTA updates will make this process to upgrade easy for EVERY enduser. As you rightly state the hardware is great and the software is being worked on everyday so I have high hopes for the future of the platform.
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
Isn't that part of the issue people are having with you???
Nokia is not providing units for reviews btw
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
Actually I read exactly what you wrote. You said that (and I paraphrase) your connection with all the companies was at a higher level than basically everyone else. It must be because apparently Nokia just GAVE you the phone without a need to sign an NDA and without requiring you to contribute to the QA process.
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Ohhh. I dont care about other reviews (no reviews on market nowadays, Nokia is not providing units for reviews btw) Next thing, the best way to check stability of that device check crash logs which Nokia received from the vast majority of N900 with different FW/HW. Check such logs for w37 for instance, you will see answer on you question. If you oculdnt check this list, then address this question to person who can do it.
My review was made for mass market readers. The same will be in future, for instance we will prepare article why Maemo wouldnt be a gaming platfrom in next few years. This artilce will be prepared by developer from practical point of view.
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Again and again. You dont read what I write. I describe that we working with all vendors/companies. It doesnt mean that I'm a part of Nokia team, contractor etc. First of all, I'm journalist and I dont care how bad Nokia hide own secrets.
For ages I have all devices and will have them. If I want make damage to company I could make it. But i dont. Because my plan is more than simple - working on this market 25-30 years more.
I am afraid all I see is still a black hole review with no details on how you got the phone, nor how you are installing updates etc.
Sorry but until you provide details lending ANY validity to the review I will simply treat it the same way I treat all FUD.
Also I will be interested in why you think a completely openGL compliant device wont be any good for games.
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2009-09-25
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Originally Posted by mobiledivide
As much as we hope that it will become slightly more mainstream I think we know in reality that it won't be mainstream like the iPhone. Part of that is because of Nokia, part of that is because of the n900, and part of that is because of the consumers themselves (insert negative statement about humanity due to the bitterness from my years of study in psychology in social and cognitive fields).
On your other point on the mainstream reaction to the N900 I tend to agree with you that the mainstream will not react to it in the way many here are expecting/hoping. The potential for improvement is there and built-in seamless OTA updates will make this process to upgrade easy for EVERY enduser. As you rightly state the hardware is great and the software is being worked on everyday so I have high hopes for the future of the platform.
But what we can hope for is a bigger userbase that continues to increase which leads to more applications (both from companies and new developers).
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They're maemo and MeeGo...
"Meamo!" sounds like what Zorro would say to catherine zeta jones... after she slaps him for looking at her dirtily...
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Originally Posted by JayOnThaBeat
It's from the council uniform page
Amazing.
At least something useful came of this thread.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=27714&page=6
Although the final costumes were much better.
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To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
To all my Maemo friends. I will no longer be monitoring any of my threads here on a regular basis. I am no longer supporting anything I did under maemo at maemo.org. If you need some help with something you can reach me at tablethacker.com or www.facebook.com/penguinbait. I have disabled my PM's here, and removed myself from Council email and Community mailing list. There has been some fun times, see you around.
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I would be very glad if some people here could stop bashing eldar. The tone of their posts is not appropriate, disrespectful and falls out of the usual constructive discussions here on t.m.o.
As I said, I have appreciated mobile-review for many years. This specific N900 situation is sure a bit unfortunate, but probably part of "the game". OTOH, it won't Nokia cost a thing to listen to Eldar's feedback. They can only win from it. And we Maemo "fans" can only win from the feedback from someone with a bit a broader and enduser-oriented perspective.
And yes, English is not everyones mother language.
As I said, I have appreciated mobile-review for many years. This specific N900 situation is sure a bit unfortunate, but probably part of "the game". OTOH, it won't Nokia cost a thing to listen to Eldar's feedback. They can only win from it. And we Maemo "fans" can only win from the feedback from someone with a bit a broader and enduser-oriented perspective.
And yes, English is not everyones mother language.
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Eldar,
Dare to give us any information on battery usage with your current firmware? Final release will of course be different, but wanted an indication of progress.
Dare to give us any information on battery usage with your current firmware? Final release will of course be different, but wanted an indication of progress.
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I may have missed a lot of what was going on, because frankly this topic is about 80% ********, but I think what happened was that some of your comments on twitter were taken too seriously by people. I found your actual articles very balanced, personally, but people were already biased against you at that point.
Didn't you for example compare the N900 to some Samsung device planned for 2011, and said the future device was superior? Taken at face value, that's a really unfair comparison, but maybe we should keep in mind that it was on twitter. Since you're here now, maybe you could elaborate with a few more characters?
If you have time to answer, I also have a few other questions:
1) How do the future platforms compare against desktop operating systems? Maemo is a real Linux distro, rather than a phone platform. In the future, with faster processors and HDMI out, it could replace laptops.
2) How do the other platforms compare in openness?
3) Does your N900 have vsync issues and stuttering panning of the desktop?
Didn't you for example compare the N900 to some Samsung device planned for 2011, and said the future device was superior? Taken at face value, that's a really unfair comparison, but maybe we should keep in mind that it was on twitter. Since you're here now, maybe you could elaborate with a few more characters?
If you have time to answer, I also have a few other questions:
1) How do the future platforms compare against desktop operating systems? Maemo is a real Linux distro, rather than a phone platform. In the future, with faster processors and HDMI out, it could replace laptops.
2) How do the other platforms compare in openness?
3) Does your N900 have vsync issues and stuttering panning of the desktop?
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Originally Posted by eldarmurtazin
You don't think that reviewing a non-final device and talking about how unstable it is could be potentially damaging to the device as well as the company? What if the device is released to customers and is found to be stable?
If I want make damage to company I could make it. But i dont. Because my plan is more than simple - working on this market 25-30 years more.
Are you planning on doing a final review of the N900 with final shipping firmware? If you are, it might be a good idea to emphasize that your current review is of unfinished firmware and may not be the same as what ships.
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