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9000 is offline 9000
2010-07-12 , 06:27
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#261
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 View Post
what other option do i have for open source and good hardware?
or perhaps open source wasnt the best idea
Well, half the pages ago you said you don't trust 'other software' aka software that isn't branded by Nokia, now suddenly you have hope on Opensource?

It's called Stockholm syndrome. The more opensource tortures you the more you put hope on it. You need help.
 
wmarone is offline wmarone
2010-07-12 , 06:29
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#262
Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
It's called Stockholm syndrome. The more opensource tortures you the more you put hope on it. You need help.
Oh hey look, yet another person has decided to attack people who don't like closed source software.

It's obvious that you're mistaking this forum for the Apple forums. Also, this and several other posts should be removed, if this topic is to remain relevant.
 
fahadj2003 is offline fahadj2003
2010-07-12 , 06:30
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#263
Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
Well, half the pages ago you said you don't trust 'other software' aka software that isn't branded by Nokia, now suddenly you have hope on Opensource?

It's called Stockholm syndrome. The more opensource tortures you the more you put hope on it. You need help.
open source is good
thing is..
open source might take ages to do what nokia can do in jus some lil time.. *resource/profession/number of peeps participating/ past experience factor*
how long did it take for one missing feature for open source to perfect?
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fahadj2003 is offline fahadj2003
2010-07-12 , 06:32
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#264
Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Oh hey look, yet another person has decided to attack people who don't like closed source software.

It's obvious that you're mistaking this forum for the Apple forums. Also, this and several other posts should be removed, if this topic is to remain relevant.
i jus had a mini fight over this with one of the admins
i suppose we jus gotta live with it
 
9000 is offline 9000
2010-07-12 , 06:43
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#265
Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
Oh hey look, yet another person has decided to attack people who don't like closed source software.

It's obvious that you're mistaking this forum for the Apple forums. Also, this and several other posts should be removed, if this topic is to remain relevant.
Sorry to make you feel uneasy, but obviously you haven't read my replies all along this thread. This is a long thread I can understand.
 
9000 is offline 9000
2010-07-12 , 06:48
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#266
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 View Post
open source is good
thing is..
open source might take ages to do what nokia can do in jus some lil time.. *resource/profession/number of peeps participating/ past experience factor*
how long did it take for one missing feature for open source to perfect?
Actually my company makes embedded devices and I tell you that there's a huge difference between something just works and something that never works. Most Opensource projects is the former, and most close source projects is latter.

Nokia should not take over the entire opensource development on Maemo or Meego or whatsoever, actually this is the very last thing we'd like to see as third party developers. The path would only lead to OSX or Android, which I can skip the ranting on.
 
fahadj2003 is offline fahadj2003
2010-07-12 , 06:55
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#267
Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
Sorry to make you feel uneasy, but obviously you haven't read my replies all along this thread. This is a long thread I can understand.
look look
i made this thread to keep things to the point
not to be called a troll or off topic insults
otherwise this is just another thread with 900+ irrelevant posts
we all good here?
 
9000 is offline 9000
2010-07-12 , 07:06
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#268
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 View Post
look look
i made this thread to keep things to the point
not to be called a troll or off topic insults
otherwise this is just another thread with 900+ irrelevant posts
we all good here?
No you did troll...at least I personally don't think you're a troll.

However, I'm not sure I should stick to the topic of the OC raised, as you can see (or you've the patient to read from the beginning), that I've already answered to OC, make on-topic discussions all the way, and concluded long long time ago. The replies I gave today are just to answer to your questions. Nothing more.

In retrospective, you shouldn't have dug such an old post that the original topic is already very outdated and irreverent (pre-PR1.2 problems). If you want people to stick to the topic, make your own post.
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fahadj2003 is offline fahadj2003
2010-07-12 , 07:08
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#269
Originally Posted by 9000 View Post
No you did troll...at least I personally don't think you're a troll.

However, I'm not sure I should stick to the topic of the OC raised, as you can see (or you've the patient to read from the beginning), that I've already answered to OC, make on-topic discussions all the way, and concluded. The replies I gave today are just to answer to you questions. Nothing more.

In retrospective, you shouldn't have dug such an old post that the original topic is already very outdated and irreverent (pre-PR1.2 problems). If you want people to stick to the topic, make your own post.
actually this is my topic
but it got merged
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...804#post747804
i asked the guy who merged it to make my thread as primary as im editing it and its supposed to be the bottom line
no one, lazy or otherwise, has enough time to read through 900+ posts
and oh, lol at make ur own post
thats what i got called a troll for
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9000 is offline 9000
2010-07-12 , 07:46
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#270
I see! Then I think the mod believed that your list is similar to the OC raised.

Let see....

Yes they are.

Here is my answer that I hope can help:


Originally Posted by fahadj2003 View Post
**** ANYONE WHO HAS ISSUES WITH THIS THREAD REPORT IT OR DO SOMETHING BETTER, THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY****

comment ur issues and i'll add em on this post to make it more easy for ppl by not making them surf 900+ posts
thank you

*add suggestions that can actually be changed i.e not hardware based*

1) no say callers name or different ringtones
1) mycontacts

2) n95 has better camera quality *in my opinion* **i'll test and confirm this**
2) try set the ISO to anything other than auto, and choose a mode like landscape or portrait other than auto, and remember to half-press the camera button to focus first (not applicable to landscape mode)

3) no vsync in messages *scrolling and frame rate*
3) what's that?

4) virtual keyboard is difficult to use
4) ukeyboard?


5) and flash 10 was promised, *yes, i contacted nokia via email, europe didnt reply, mea had the same typical "we're sorry that u are having issues with ur nokia device"
5) delay of the flash 10 is hardly Nokia's problem or community's fault. Adobe is sole responsible for it. Don't worry, HTML5 is way up ahead to replace flash. If Adobe do not value their business, just leave flash 10 out of N900, we care less.

6) and speaker sound is damn low when i turn it on during calls and why switch the screen off when its on loud speaker?
6) speaker problem might be hardware-wise, I'm sorry to tell you that. Try pressing the spot to the right of the phone speaker to see if you get better reception, if you do, then I'm sorry to tell you that you might get someone to fix it as it's the exact location of the phone speaker is.

The auto-off during phone calling is annoying yes. Something has a fix of it but I forgot where it is, you should look for yourself.

7) no voice navigation and it has has nothing to do with qt
7) Why, there is. Ask google.


8) and app manager refreshing is waay to slow
8) I think someone else has suggested...fast app manager. I use console mode apt-get anyway


9) widgets missing, during changing themes and if selected again, they come back to their original position
9) you can type sync;sync in xterminal before shutdown your phone. It's a Linux nevertheless

10) offline gps location finding?
is this a hardware limitation?
coz n900 consumes lots of data when online
10) Yes, look for Nokia map loader
is this a hardware limitation? -> your SD space

11) it would be nice if software update could be checked in an adjustable time period coz again, i loose all my credit *prepaid* when it suddenly checks for app updates
11) Yes it can be done. Again you should look for it yourself. I got only so much time in my life for my own problems ya know XD

12) internet access customizable like s60v5.. java apps
each can set which apps can use net and how to notify
12) that's not the real internet customization, it's just access right restriction on java application. You should look at the Java on N900 for more details. No, N900 is not made for running java application by default so you must do it the hard way.

13) i read the bugjar thingy, didnt get a technical sh*t
can someone tell me what happened to the BME becoming open source for the host mode project?
13) I can only say N900 would be the first phone that enable USB host-mode in the future given its openness. Other phone would just say no to you

14) can someone confirm that n900 can never have multi touch support.. i read in wikipedia that resistive can have multitouch and it was provided to windows mobile *htc i think* recently..
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58193

14) in my opinion multi-touch is the most useless function, especially when you've keyboard. Anyway, if you need that multi-touch badly, all resistive touchscreen phones are not for you (anyway I've been told there's a project for N900 multi-touch. Look for yourself)

15) its laggy and 500mhz min is safe to use, even if u keep 600mhz max and the laggyness goes away
15) It's laggy because the process run on true multi-tasking. This is something I can live with for that nice multi-tasking.

16) cant repeat songs, jus play-lists
16) Mediabox


17) if someone can come up with a widget for dialer, i've seen one around but its too small
if someone cal make a portrait based widget *dun care if ti takes up the whole screen*, i'll be glad coz opening up the dialer flips the screen *which is slow* and we also have to tap again for the dialer
17) Just go to configure and stop it from flippy. You should really read the menu (well, honestly I didn't XD)

18) all components open source or contribution on research projects and porting of other OS which require drivers of closed components
18) well, how would that be the problem of opensource projects?

19) media player should have a specific folder to look into rather than the whole memory *recorded calls for example, dont wanna them to be played after my song is over*
19) Mediabox, symfonie...etc.

20) copy contacts TO simcard is missing
20) There's solutions. Just look for yourself please.

21) portrait apps to say the least like sms or photo browser with a portrait based virtual keyboard

21) I don't want portrait SMS, but it can be done(look for yurself) and you can go portrait mode with photo browser. Do you really use N900 anyway?

22) call duration, record of past calls and their duration along with internet *not wifi*
22) extended calllog, and many other applications others has suggested above.

23) Videos stutter a lot for the first few seconds of play back.
23) I don't feel the stutter.....what other apps you run on background anyway?

24) Scrolling through a long list can be quite jerky. For example if you are scrolling through the thumbnails of your photos.
24) What other phone not jerky in this case?

25) Sometimes the phone rings with a blank screen for a few seconds so no way to answer the phone. I know a few others have had this issue but not sure how wide spread it is.
25) Just tap in the middle


26) there is no equalizer for media player
26) symfonie...but anyway, you'd find that having a equalizer is quite useless. Try it you'd understand.

27) there is no power saving mode *and power-saving, i meant like s60 has a system like.. when the battery is like 5-10%, the screen brightness will be reduced.. and if they limit processor state too or switch it to powersaving as governor, that could actually be useful*
27) it has powesaving mode: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49982


Phew.

Hope this help.
 

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