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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
SkyEagle, I agree with you in principle, but this is still important with regards to these products: they are N series, not E series.
Hi Texrat.

Just to continue my previous post...I don't want to appear only as a moaning user...I want to let Nokia know, as a loyal customer of the brand for many years (personally and also influencing corporate buys) my feedback and my observations, that are really common in many business users.

Business segment is usually the most important one in terms of revenues and importance...

Nokia has managed the Meego announcement in the most terrible way they could have done, originating all these speculations and FUD and user complains around all the forums for the lack of clarity, the perception of being abandoned etc etc (I would not repeat the conceps already expressed by other users again).

Regarding the N series and E series, I'm not fully aware of all the Nokia models (they are really TOO much !...I think they should start simplify all the dozen of models ...look at what Apple did with Iphone !)...but they advertised N900 as a "mobile computer touchscreen" with the same level of functionality in the email, calendar etc etc apps.

I use PC everyday and I know what are the usual common features of email clients, calendar and PIM apps etc so I expected a quite similar feature experience, expecially if they promises in the advertisments!

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE for a top level device, a "mobile computer" of 599€, so many limitations in the features of the basic programs. Expecially when ALL the Nokia competitors gave you MUCH MORE STANDARD "business" features in the basic apps that comes with their phone (and also Nokia deliver in many more economic Symbian deivces).

I write this because I would like that Nokia really understand these aspects and feeling common to many many of their loyal customers. PLEASE REPORT THIS TO THE BIG BOSS of Nokia!

I really apreciate the help of many of you, the Nokia guys here (qgil, Vitaly, all the others)...but please tell NOKIA, which is a Big company, the leader in phone market (for now for number of devices, but not more in the high end devices) that need to react QUICKLY, investing money in it or they'll continue to loose many top customer and big clients in the next months....the world is running really too fast and Iphone and Android are taking the leadership of the market.

They already have a big gap in the number of applications and accessories ( see Iphone everywhere)..they need to attract more developers and users in the Meego OS/enviroment.: Making the first adopters of N900 go to other platform is not properly a good start !

To compete with Apple RIM has release the BES server as FREE (BES express) from 1st of March. This is really a big plus for the business user that need to be "online as it happens" with his office...so please, Nokia, react and deliver FULL and complete Mail for Exchange, Modest and Calendar sync compatibility with Exchange.

Greets from Italy,
SkyEagle

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Nokia is well-aware of the issues you cite, SkyEagle. Business decisions on resource allocation came down to priority, and some features were determined to be more compelling than others. Hopefully the platform has enough traction and interest now to justify beefing up resources... and I see evidence that this is true.
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Originally Posted by Mandor View Post
Hai letto la pagina wiki ?

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect
No...I didn't have read it by the time of my original post.
Very nice page ! Thanks for the informations.

But now I expect some rapid move from Nokia...not only words ;-)

I really hope that PR 1.2 will be a big improvment.

Keep on with the great job !

Grets from Italy.
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
SkyEagle, I agree with you in principle, but this is still important with regards to these products: they are N series, not E series.
FWIW a N95 with Mail for Exchange has no issues with calendaring or supporting Exchange 2007/2003. And you can use other options for your email (Seven, Profimail).

However, N-series doesn't support encryption and provisoning I think.
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Originally Posted by mrojas View Post
FWIW a N95 with Mail for Exchange has no issues with calendaring or supporting Exchange 2007/2003. And you can use other options for your email (Seven, Profimail).

However, N-series doesn't support encryption and provisoning I think.
You're right about the provisioning... as we have seen repeated ad nauseum in other threads.

But my point about N vs E is all about feature prioritization. Granted there will be some crossover features, but Nokia has maintained a strong distinction between the product lines for some time.

This is just another example of why I think the N900 and its siblings should have had a separate designation. MC maybe?
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
You're right about the provisioning... as we have seen repeated ad nauseum in other threads.

But my point about N vs E is all about feature prioritization. Granted there will be some crossover features, but Nokia has maintained a strong distinction between the product lines for some time.

This is just another example of why I think the N900 and its siblings should have had a separate designation. MC maybe?
For me, they could be called Susan as long they start supporting fully Exchange protocols. If N and E devices are going to be distinguished by media features (screen, media player, etc) ok, but it is time every Nokia device supports Exchange fully with provisioning, encryption, HTML email, etc.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
This is just another example of why I think the N900 and its siblings should have had a separate designation. MC maybe?
Why, so that when people criticise, for example, poor media playback capabilities we can claim it's an unjustified criticism because they're not N-series devices?

Different designations don't get away from the fact that many of the stock applications on the N900 are lacking basic functionality, in particular Modest and Nokia Messaging which are currently being ignored in b.m.o. For heavens sake, Modest doesn't even do what my N85 used to do with ease!
 

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Originally Posted by Mandor View Post
Indeed.

SkyEagle, you see I was also considering the E72 beside the N900. The E72 is a kick (unmentionable part) business class phone with everything you seem to be looking for. I would suggest you take a look at it.
I got an E71 and I can guess why he didn't pick the E72: the screen is small! Reading the web on it can be painful at times.
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Originally Posted by Milhouse View Post
Why, so that when people criticise, for example, poor media playback capabilities we can claim it's an unjustified criticism because they're not N-series devices?

Different designations don't get away from the fact that many of the stock applications on the N900 are lacking basic functionality, in particular Modest and Nokia Messaging which are currently being ignored in b.m.o. For heavens sake, Modest doesn't even do what my N85 used to do with ease!
My suggestion goes far beyond a mere two-letter prefix. Nokia wraps major business decisions around those seemingly insignificant things.
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Originally Posted by Texrat View Post
My suggestion goes far beyond a mere two-letter prefix. Nokia wraps major business decisions around those seemingly insignificant things.
I'd be happy with EN900... best of both worlds - the perfect blend!

While I'm not looking for a business-oriented phone/device, the capabilities of Modest, Nokia Messaging and the Calendar are far below what I would expect (indeed, what I *had* 2 years ago) when using a common or garden N-Series phone. For a flagship N-Series device the N900 is a major let-down and Modest seems to be regressing with each PR release.
 
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