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2010-05-26
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#262
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
This. Otherwise how would you be able to download and install whatever apps are there for the official MeeGo-Harmattan platform?
So; when you say MeeGo-Harmattan CE.. are we talking deb based? A port directly from what sources we do get from Nokia when more software is released?
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2010-05-26
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#263
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Originally Posted by Vinh
Let's put the right context on this comment:
Oh, the Pentium II 350 Mhz computer that I mentioned in my post? It's running openSuSE 11.2, the latest release.
- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.
- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.
- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?
- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
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2010-05-26
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#264
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Originally Posted by Vinh
You miss the point.
So the N900 and the Cliq are being treated the same. I'm sure that makes N900 owners feel better.
What are fair support expectations for a smartphone like the Cliq? For a GNU/Linux computer like the N900? Six months? 1 year? 2 years?
He said Android devices don't get abandoned. I think Cliq owners expect support throughout the length of their contracts
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps
Um... I actually read the website and it says that the Cliq will be getting Android 2.1 and Flash. The quote that was pulled was from a user who had called several T-mobile stores and got mixed answers, half saying "yes", half saying "no".
The excuses are really getting worse aren't they? No android 2.1 -because of no dual core processor-, wtf? :P
I don't know if the Cliq users actually got their update yet, but Motorola has Android 2.1 listed for Q2 2010:
http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news...cliq-and-dext/
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by qgil
Uh........what....?
Let's put the right context on this comment:
- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.
- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.
- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?
- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
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.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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2010-05-26
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#267
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Originally Posted by Vinh
There's no update for the Cliq yet and we are passed the Q2 mid point. Froyo is out and plans for bringing it to the Cliq aren't even detailed.
Um... I actually read the website and it says that the Cliq will be getting Android 2.1 and Flash. The quote that was pulled was from a user who had called several T-mobile stores and got mixed answers, half saying "yes", half saying "no".
I don't know if the Cliq users actually got their update yet, but Motorola has Android 2.1 listed for Q2 2010:
http://androidandme.com/2010/02/news...cliq-and-dext/
Motorola doesn't even know when the Droid is getting Froyo.
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2010-05-26
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#268
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Originally Posted by attila77
QML = Qt 4.7
The biggest specific concern is that of technologies like QML and DirectUI/Orbit, or rather, will the same situation as for Java reappear, where one has to target lowest-common denominators which are usually at that point almost semi-deprecated. Synchronized platform releases could help this.
DirectUI (now MeeGo Touch) and Orbit are not part of the Qt roadmap and don't offer currently any cross-platform compatibility.
Qt + Qt Mobility APIs + Qt SDK are at the peak of the MeeGo developer offering. Following the Qt development, roadmap and speed of releases there is nothing I would call low or semi-deprecated. It actually looks like fast moving to my eyes.
If you want to even go faster, at the expense of cross-compatibility, then you can have a look at these frameworks on top of Qt before they are assimilated by the official Qt API. Up to you.
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by qgil
Or... he could have built his own PC thus no OS, something that cannot apply to the 770 or any Nokia product at all honestly.
Let's put the right context on this comment:
- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.
- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.
- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?
- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
As it stands, the continued support, updates and application development for prior Maemo iterations seem to stop after a few updates. How many more updates are planned for the N900 under the current Maemo 5 platform? Some, none, many?
What will be missing from the MeeGo Community Edition that the MeeGo actual edition (the one that is planned for another device) in regards to the N900?
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2010-05-26
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Originally Posted by qgil
I would contend that the N770 has the same /base/ user experience as the N800, N810 and N900, though much slower. OS 2007 and OS 2008 did get backported, though not in an official manner, so they were left in a broken, "use at your own risk", state. The remaining community didn't have the expertise to follow-up, nor could they with the closed portions of the OS. The ports proved that the N770 was just as capable at running the OS.
Let's put the right context on this comment:
- Your PC is x86 but here we deal with ARM architecture. Long term support for ARM based products is a different topic.
- PCs currently sold still offer more or less the same user experience than your old PC based on a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.
- Did you buy that PC with openSuse or with Windows something inside? The question is: are you getting official updates from the vendor you got the PC or the OS from?
- If you got that PC with Windows and now you are relying on a free Linux distro, then the equivalent is to rely on plain open source MeeGo.
As for my PC...
I bought the PC "blank"; that is, it was assembled from newly purchased parts. The first OS I installed on it was RedHat 5.0, mainly because it came in shrinkwrap form. When RedHat stopped shrinkwrap, I switched to SuSE shrinkwrap. I didn't have the bandwidth with a 56K modem to download a whole distro DVD. These days, I do.
I would say my user experience on the same /old/ hardware has improved quite a bit from RedHat 5.0 to openSuSE 11.2, even though I'm essentially still using a regular screen, keyboard and mouse.
I suppose my upgrade mentality comes from expectations of open source on a PC. I bought the N770 with the same ideas of open source on an internet tablet.
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