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2010-03-09
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#272
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
I'd be happy with EN900... best of both worlds - the perfect blend!
Originally Posted by Milhouse
I quote all you messagge. Totally agree with you !
I While I'm not looking for a business-oriented phone/device, the capabilities of Modest, Nokia Messaging and the Calendar are far below what I would expect (indeed, what I *had* 2 years ago) when using a common or garden N-Series phone. For a flagship N-Series device the N900 is a major let-down and Modest seems to be regressing with each PR release.
I only hope that PR 1.2 will improve at least Modest, since in the meantime it is released Tinymail 1.0 and the authors said that it will be included in PR 1.2 as a Modest upgrade.
It has many nice "new" features that are standard in all the competitors but, still, I would like to see as soon as possible on N900.
See the post:
http://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2010...-1-0-released/
I'm not so confident however on the Calendar and phone app improvments but I would like to be in error.
We'll see in few days/hours I hope !
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2010-03-09
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#273
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Originally Posted by mrojas
Prioritize your top 3 features and then buy the phone corresponding to those features.
I got an E71 and I can guess why he didn't pick the E72: the screen is small! Reading the web on it can be painful at times.
Mine were :
1) Open source
2) Wi-Fi browsing
3) Screen Resolution 800x480 and above
Or if you prefer a "mobile browsing device"
SkyEagle's seems to be :
1) Full support Mail for Exchange
2) Complete navigation software
3) Calender + PIN
What I would call a business phone
Nokia naming convention :
Nseries : most advanced
Xseries : social entertainment
Eseries : productivity and business
Cseries : core range of products
So this is why I suggested an E72. If you want all that in one device then I don't know what to tell. Wait a few years maybe ?
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2010-03-09
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#274
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Originally Posted by SkyEagle
Yeah, I've seen it and it occurred to me that while they can blog about TinyMail they don't seem capable of communicating as effectively where bugs are concerned, and the bugs are racking up.
See the post:
http://blogs.igalia.com/svillar/2010...-1-0-released/
Since Maemo tablets are the only target audience for Modest/Tinymail/whatever I'd have expected to see more "presence" in b.m.o.
Usual Maemo crap though, maybe the Intel & LF guys will help get it right at last.
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2010-03-09
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#275
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Originally Posted by Mandor
1 & 2 are expected features on bog-standard N-Series phones - even my 2.5 year old N85 supports 1 & 2 so it's not unreasonable to expect the latest and most powerful flagship N-Series device to feature likewise. The fact that it doesn't is a problem that should be addressed, not ignored.
1) Full support Mail for Exchange
2) Complete navigation software
3) Calender + PIN
Item #3 (Calendar + PIM), yes - poor on most N-Series devices. However for Nokia to keep it that way purely as a means of differentiating N-Series devices from E-Series is not smart when the competition "consumer" phones already have much better Calendar functionality.
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
Ok point taken. You could always buy a phone from a competitor. My point is you would still have to ask yourself what are the top 3 features you couldn't live without.
1 & 2 are expected features on bog-standard N-Series phones - even my 2.5 year old N85 supports 1 & 2 so it's not unreasonable to expect the latest and most powerful flagship N-Series device to feature likewise. The fact that it doesn't is a problem that should be addressed, not ignored.
Item #3 (Calendar + PIM), yes - poor on most N-Series devices. However for Nokia to keep it that way purely as a means of differentiating N-Series devices from E-Series is not smart when the competition "consumer" phones already have much better Calendar functionality.
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2010-03-09
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#277
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Originally Posted by Mandor
Prioritize your top 3 features and then buy the phone corresponding to those features.
Mine were :
1) Open source
2) Wi-Fi browsing
3) Screen Resolution 800x480 and above
Or if you prefer a "mobile browsing device"
SkyEagle's seems to be :
1) Full support Mail for Exchange
2) Complete navigation software
3) Calender + PIN
What I would call a business phone
So this is why I suggested an E72. If you want all that in one device then I don't know what to tell. Wait a few years maybe ?
In fact I wanted all of them in one device....well...the open source was not my priority number 1 but a very welcome plus (since I hate the Iphone/Apple lockup of devices and some limitation of 3GS).Also navigator is not priority number one (since in my car I have a navigation system) but I would like to see as soon as possible a decent Navigator, when I go abroad I used often the navigator on the phone).
I think that it is now possible to have almost of all those requirements, and even more, with the last devices from HTC, Apple, Google etc... I choose Nokia also for the tradition of the brand in good phone devices (Iphone has weak phone reception) my expreience with other devices and the opinion of many initial users were great for this aspect..
But we're going off topic of the thread...
Last edited by SkyEagle; 2010-03-09 at 20:33.
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2010-03-09
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By doing differentiating they try to give customer choice of device that is cost efficient to Nokia and also to customer. Believe it or not there is actually customers who will not want specific function or hardware and they like it that way (it would be packed with too much something..yes some people see it like that). Unfortunately these people are in minority. In my experience, sorry , it's over 40 old dads (Look Nokia's CEOs, but actually they are starting to get it finally) They did not completely see that right now customers demand everything to be on highest level on this kind of device. Read Ari Jaaksis blog about facebook/twitter people who only care about browser, IM/SMS, video (not spreadsheets and word processing). Thatīs actually his vision. Fact is that these same "hip" people got to also work And they want besides of all the other things all the E-series functionality. So would it make E-series less atractive? Probably. Would it eat e series market? Probably. Itīs all about business, but this kind of business is not going to take you long anymore. And actually I see that Nokia is gradually starting to realize this.
I have to agree that right now these device is gradually IMHO going to its orginal price level. For me it would probably have started somewhere about 300 .
Last edited by slender; 2010-03-09 at 20:44.
, it's over 40 old dads (Look Nokia's CEOs, but actually they are starting to get it finally) They did not completely see that right now customers demand everything to be on highest level on this kind of device. Read Ari Jaaksis blog about facebook/twitter people who only care about browser, IM/SMS, video (not spreadsheets and word processing). Thatīs actually his vision. Fact is that these same "hip" people got to also work And they want besides of all the other things all the E-series functionality. So would it make E-series less atractive? Probably. Would it eat e series market? Probably. Itīs all about business, but this kind of business is not going to take you long anymore. And actually I see that Nokia is gradually starting to realize this. I have to agree that right now these device is gradually IMHO going to its orginal price level. For me it would probably have started somewhere about 300 .
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by Milhouse
I don't believe this is being ignored.
1 & 2 are expected features on bog-standard N-Series phones - even my 2.5 year old N85 supports 1 & 2 so it's not unreasonable to expect the latest and most powerful flagship N-Series device to feature likewise. The fact that it doesn't is a problem that should be addressed, not ignored..
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2010-03-09
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Originally Posted by Texrat
By all means point me to any discussion from the developers where they publicly acknowledge and commit to fixing the known issues?
I don't believe this is being ignored.
In an ideal world I would expect you to mention b.m.o, but that's pretty much a Modest developer-free zone these days...
But the problem is not only provisioning (not much used in Europe in many company), but all the other issue & limitation:
- no support for recurring event sync
- no local/remote decent search in the email/contactcs etc
- no category sync
and we can go on...