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Originally Posted by IsaacDFP
Morph was a concept designed to point to the tech being developed in the different Nokia RCs. That said, these pieces talk about what's come in that vein:
Zehjotkah! I always forget to ask this question, but is ANYBODY AT ALL in Nokia still working on the Nokia Morph project?? It's been years since I've heard any updates
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/...6&viewall=true
http://research.nokia.com/news/9512
I'd love a Morph device too. It sparked me to get an N800 honestly. Will be a while yet before that tech is finished though, lots of work to do I'm sure.
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by shady
Great if it's so. But so far everything indicates that obtaining the device with hw keyboard will be close to impossible. Whatever that obscure mantra "for developers only" means.
zeh, id do a great deal of help if you could refrain from delineating as dev/consumer ... they are both consumers, and it makes it sound like one is exclusive to one group. both devices will be sold, and both will be easily acquired through normal channels.
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by volt
can't say much about OS200x devices or backgrounds as back then they didn't have SIM / GSM.
I think you're right.
What's the deal with Lucky Goldstar, anyway. They've been saying they're gonna give us a Maemo device since like... Maemo 4.
wi-fi & Co is cute (well, a lot more then cute, of course...) but i can't depend on that & i'm not about to have yet another device bagged along
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by volt
can we really depend on colours to distinguish or identify devices?
I think you're right.
What's the deal with Lucky Goldstar, anyway. They've been saying they're gonna give us a Maemo device since like... Maemo 4.
That phone clearly looks like a HTC related to Hero, Desire and Desire Z. HTC have so many models, I can't pinpoint the closest one, but the Desire Z would have been my guess except the darker gray on the Desire Z wouldn't look black - I think. Also, the Desire Z seems to be more rounded.
Even so, I'd much earlier believe that's the Desire Z, than I would that said person would get away with showing off his still-unannounced N9(50) in public in that way. Is he even an Nokia insider?
i mean, the N8 comes in pink
doesn't that device seem to be made of two parts? upper screen & lower ???
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by shmerl
i'd say, so far, nothing (official) allows to say what device we'll get.
Great if it's so. But so far everything indicates that obtaining the device with hw keyboard will be close to impossible. Whatever that obscure mantra "for developers only" means.
no offence to Ze, but, as long as he can't say Elop or whomever in charge @ NOKIA confirmed (him) a specific device will be distributed, we are left w/ speculation.
basically, we will have to wait for an official announcement.
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by misterc
Doesn't it look like a flattened and thinner Hero with a lighter shade of silver?
can we really depend on colours to distinguish or identify devices?
i mean, the N8 comes in pink
HTC isn't Nokia. If that's indeed a HTC, there's many models to choose from but only so few colours. I can't remember seeing a Nokia having that signature HTC dark bottom part.
doesn't that device seem to be made of two parts? upper screen & lower ???
This is, from the start, a speculation thread. We can't depend on anything in here. (Nor can we depend on Nokia, pretty much.)
Last edited by volt; 2011-05-25 at 20:16. Reason: Changed picture to show colours better
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by misterc
Come on, the N8 in pink is a real sexy one. I'm saying that as a man who doesn't like girly colors at all, but on the N8 it just looks right...
can we really depend on colours to distinguish or identify devices?
i mean, the N8 comes in pink
doesn't that device seem to be made of two parts? upper screen & lower ???
And yes, the device in the photo (HTC Desire Z) is made of two parts, it has a QWERTY keyboard.
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by cfh11
There were N900s given/sold to developers "through abnormal channels" too. A device does not have to be a taboo device that will never land in the hands of users in order to be distributed like this, to developers first, but eventually to consumers.
everything we have heard so far points to the contrary. dev devices are typically loaners that you have to return in 2-3 years. and they will not be "easily acquired though normal channels" - you will need to either be at some sort of Nokia event or you will have to sign up for the developer device program.
so i think referring to dev and consumer devices separately is perfectly appropriate.
Why wouldn't Nokia sell the devices? Are they not good enough for consumers? Because of what, "flimsy hinges"? And developers, not being human beings (to quote the old Ubuntu lemma), wouldn't care about that, and would think it's OK to use a crappy phone?
I don't doubt there may be developer programs, "abnormal channels", etc. But the idea of the exclusivity, that the device will _never_ be sold as a regular device simply does not make sense to me. I believe you people ate jumping to conclusions from incomplete information. It's a very colorful story, devices that were going to the garbage bin being instead scrapped and given to our valiant developers... I would certainly love one of these, along with the story of saving a rare device (I am myself a known techno beggar, having participated of the Nokia Push while never being able to afford a N900). But a teacher of melancholy once taught me that life is very rarely that exciting and interesting.
Nokia can manufacture these babies by the flip of a switch. They open up the N9 faucet, and there you go, macbooquesque 1GHz mobile computers to all around the world. Not just 97k in a warehouse behind Eldar Murtain's momma house in Russia.
I will buy this story if you guys provide me one solid reason for Nokia to act like this. If the device has a _good quality_, it can be perfectly sold regularly. If it has a _bad quality_, Nokia should in fact bury these little monsters deep, and never let them see the light of day, not even as scrapped gadgets handed to developers. They have a reputation to keep, and all that sort of marketing stuff...
Just my 97,000 cents. I will eat the sapphire of a Nokia Oro if turns out my predictions, based on zero facts and just my own uncommon sense (or Next Sense) are wrong.
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2011-05-25
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Originally Posted by volt
That seems unlikely. Nokia never licensed Maemo to any other company and never showed any interest in doing so. Indeed, each time the possibility of licensing was brought up by community members, Nokia employees responded negatively.
What's the deal with Lucky Goldstar, anyway. They've been saying they're gonna give us a Maemo device since like... Maemo 4.
A few small manufacturers did show "Maemo" devices, but those weren't licensed. They didn't have legal right to use the Maemo name, and they didn't use the full Maemo software stack. Instead, they combined some open source pieces from Maemo with mixes of other, non-Maemo open source and proprietary parts.
Had a company as large as LG tried that, Nokia would have taken them to court to protect the Maemo trademark.
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What's the deal with Lucky Goldstar, anyway. They've been saying they're gonna give us a Maemo device since like... Maemo 4.
That phone clearly looks like a HTC related to Hero, Desire and Desire Z. HTC have so many models, I can't pinpoint the closest one, but the Desire Z would have been my guess except the darker gray on the Desire Z wouldn't look black - I think. Also, the Desire Z seems to be more rounded.
Even so, I'd much earlier believe that's the Desire Z, than I would that said person would get away with showing off his still-unannounced N9(50) in public in that way. Is he even an Nokia insider?
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