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Hey guys, so uhm.. I've been caught up with school and exams and art and whatever. I missed you all to be honest. But, while I was away, I've been doing some big art projects and one of those will be submitted to a university in Beirut that holds an Arts & Sciences fair for 2015. It's gonna be the girl holding the flower. What do you guys think (This is all done with color pencils) And I reaaaaaaally missed you all, how are you guys




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#2852
Yea ...haven't seen you for a while ...good to see you AMD.
Both are nicely done.
But go with the other.
This isn't a critique on which I "like".
This is professional eval. from a guy who over his lifetime has been in enough exhibitions, judged showings etc...
Your proportions and depth in the other is better.
The execution is better.
Your model with the rose has points needing addressing...ergo submit the one you won't be torn apart over in judging...or looked over in favour of another's.
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Yes, that's what I've wanted to do but then my family and friends went like NO - N. O. due to the fact that it looks more realistic than the blue eyed girl. Anyway, can't do anything about it now tho because it's been submitted to the person resposible for the art fair and he'll be handing it to the uni soon. :/ But of course, more art will be on the way
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#2854
hm...
well you could put the scan into a paint / graphic editor to play with it
for kicks...without altering / damaging the original.
Fact is the human eye looking at the human face naturally hunts for symmetrical and asymmetrical characteristics or "flaws" ..and either sees them and knows exactly what is "on" or "off" about the subject immediately because they know what to look for and why..otherwise the observer doesn't know the "why"

There are exact proportions for the human face ...and you as an artist just "know" when you are off.
The math of it is that the spacing 'tween the eyes is proportional to everything else..nose length and width..mouth..chin...brow...cheekbone.

With your rose model ...
the eyes need a little more depth...just a bit...a deeper hint in the corners..and ever so slight pouch (best word I can think of at the mo.) above and below the eyeball (orbit) to convey the illusion there is a spherical object (eyeball) underneath the skin.

The cheeks below the cheekbone need depth to project the concept there is a cheekbone above and thereby enhance a slight hinting of a jawbone line below.

The length of her nose coupled with the space beneath nose to upper lip to lower lip to chin is just barely "out".
Shortening the nose as well the space above the upper lip and giving her more space under her lower lip will proportion her out better and give her a chin which is currently past the "weak chin" and heading towards "no chin"

Because she has a rose 'tween her teeth...there should be some show of musculature in the creasing at the corners of her mouth...at least a little...it is the physics of expression with a common set of muscles and an object..a rose stem clenched in the teeth. Even clenching a pencil or pen would elicit a visible creasing of skin at the corner of the mouth ...forget a rose. Your model is showing a completely relaxed face as if there was no object clenched in the teeth.

If you play with a copy of it ...you don't risk damaging the original and you can work with it...improve upon.. it's good for study.

It's not that the other doesn't look real enough...
all the other needs is more directed light source applied to give the sense of depth on the skin...which is quickly remedied ...really cosmetic.
The foundation...the 'bones" of the black-haired beauty are better.. your proportions here are pretty much perfect.
I think it the better of the two.
A little shadow and depth and it would instantaneously obvious it is the better... to the blind even
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Hahaha, well, true that I'll take it into consideration. It should be some fun playing around with this. I'll do that in my free time, thanks for the advice!
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#2856
Nice work AMD. Welcome back and good luck With the competition.

I have always known that girls eating flowers.
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Nice work AMD. Welcome back and good luck With the competition.

I have always known that girls eating flowers.
Hahaha. Thank you. I really missed you man. How's life going for you
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Hahaha. Thank you. I really missed you man. How's life going for you
So far so good!
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#2859
A super massive black joke was just defeated buy a simple gas cloud.

Who would have though that black holes were such a losers...not me.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/cloud-...ay-2015-3?r=US
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yes, I think so...we escaped from the super massive black hole called nokia

one question i never undetstand is...is this black hole moving away from Earth or towords it. since universe expanding...does that mean the distance between erath and the black hole increased
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