See if this helps: http://beginlinux.com/desktop_traini...wireless-setup

That was just the first I thought of (not to mention the registry tweaks weren't always for cosmetic reasons, sometimes for performance). Also installing drivers and changing out cards was never fun. I'll still never understand why I need to remove my wireless card and plug it back in when I switch it out and in. I use to bring my desktop to college and home, at college I used ethernet, at home I used wireless. I would swap out my wireless card for my TV tuner card. That required endless software messing around with and not to mention when I reinstalled my wireless card it wouldn't recognize it till I reinstalled the software (which then required me to take out the card and plug it back in). Or as I learned, don't put the wireless card in until you reinstall the device drivers.

Another issue occasionally was installing programs, some of the software I used would never install fully, or it would and wouldn't work (since there's no equivilant of apt-get install which checks for dependencies). Though I think tha'ts the differnce between .msi and .exe

card works, finds network, takes pwd, shows bars at top for signal... but doesnt populate ip & stuff ... once i can get online with ubuntu, i can really start messin around... but for right now, i have to keep loadin windoze to get online

What connection do you have?

ok, im pretty sure its some kind of compatability issue with the router

the router is a linksys wrt54g with wep128.

i can connect to the router, but it keeps asking me for the password.

however, a neighbor has a belkin54g, which I CAN connect to the internet, but its a super-weak/ unreliable signal.

im currently googling issues between ubuntu and wrt54g, but am not having much luck finding anything relevant.

comcast, top package

I'm still checking in and don't mind how the thread has gone. It's drawn some people out already.
I don't need anything from the trolls, posting this here is putting the message where it belongs. So anyone who wants to know how much the N810 sucks can see that it does and just what it takes to resign yourself to the disappointment. If it impacts future Nokia sales, I'd be happier still. The N810 is a big-red-F-grade for product support and design.
The hecklers' banter will stick around to haunt them while I will simply have an opinion that coincides with endless reviews online.

Ironically, nobody has been able to conclusively refute that at release time, the N810 was unfit for the purposes it was sold for. It still stands uncontested that in a practical context, other devices outperform it and are more responsive.

Why I bought the N810 over them is because it was based on Linux and I was under the mistaken impression that when comparing the devices, the N810 would be able to bear the burden of it's features - which it definitely can't.
I've seen more people come on here (like yourself) and state that you can see through to my point and I appreciate that a fair bit.
I will continue to maintain these fair standards and don't feel obligated to compromise my expectations. Especially when the responsiveness of the device in question is already outdone by devices made 6 years ago! I get a kick out of that.

My N810 is sold now (for a decent price as well), good riddance and hopefully it can make somebody with as low of standards as the others here happy.

Nokia could crap out another lemon like the N810 (except make it hand-cranked) and they'd still sit there treating it like some exclusive religion. Or an acquired taste. It all turns into "well, the N810 for me is......."

The N810 to most people who bought it is a piece of crap where OS images have been known to ship with broken repositories. The GPS is unstable indoors or out. Single-application load times are abhorrent and again, blackberries respond faster than this! Screen updates are fractured and lengthy. There were corrupted internal memory card issues. Bluetooth communication was a nightmare when I tried to hook up an Apple Bluetooth keyboard there was sometimes 1 to 2 seconds of input lag! The device until the last moment I owned it still had no real effective suspend strategy. Every time I picked the lemon up, it was flat because it never suspended - even within a day, which made me less inclined to try using it.
I'll never stop about the GPS because that was such a stillborn joke.

None of this happened overnight to the N810, it SHIPPED with these problems when it was released!

I paid $400 to find this out and not once did Nokia look at their product and the landslide of reviews online and say "wow, we screwed the user experience on this one, why are we selling this through mainstream channels?!"

To be thorough, I'm far from a mainstream user, but that doesn't mean everything I buy has to be broken. I can't think of many products where I'm going to look at it's advertised features and go "Yeah, but I won't be able to do all that, but here you go, I'll pay for it anyway!"

If I'm told a product will do something, it will do it without wasting my time and it will do it well. Period.

This whole "get a grip" attitude is a farce. I have an empty cardboard box that will fly to the moon for all you internet tabletards if you think the N810 is fit for purpose.

wow, i thought we changed the subject to poop and old modems.

hrmm.

PS, hey Omega, why do you keep trying to use GPS indoors? $400 Garmin receivers don't even usually work indoors... just sayin.

Are you blind? I said indoors or out.

There's some serious selective reading going on here.

... "indoors or out" includes "indoors" doesn't it?

(and what if i WAS blind? wouldn't YOU feel like a jerk!)

Who cares? Does that change that it's broken out of the box? No.

I have a park near my house with open skies all around, no tall buildings. The GPS had a bloody fit as soon as I took a step.

It was defective out of the box.