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2010-01-22 , 14:03
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#281
Originally Posted by NvyUs View Post
i think the video was made by jay montano of mynokiablog.com so find is profile on here and give him thanks.
please dont give me credit i'm not that creative lol
Just for giving note, getting thanks for.
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:08
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#282
Originally Posted by Haus3r View Post
Only partially correct. Everybody I spoke to said "the feature is not included as of yet, but it's coming in January with a new FW update". And imho this hasnt arrived yet.

@Nokia, what's going on?
I guess a re-allocation of programmer resources.

I can imagine Nokia management saying:

"Great the n900 was a success, users are spending their hard-earned cash. We have solid revenue over the next couple of months as it keeps selling. We are also going to re-coup development costs too.

Now what?

F*** it! Let's prematurely start on maemo 6 and f*** the n900 users the've already spent thier money. Let's develop a new phone with a new updated maemo os. Better still don't release the new os for the n900 either. Users will have to spend more of their hard-earned money buying the new phone. But we need an incentive. I know we'll only release the free ovi maps for the new version of the maemo and users will have to buy a new phone to get it.
Great that's a great idea Mr V.P. of Nokia. I'll tell you what. I'll tell the existing maemo 5 developers to start work on maemo 6 straight away.
But n900 user's are waiting for the firmware update - it needs a couple of months more work - it's not finished yet. What shall we do? I know! We'll get the developer newbie to continue work on the maemo 5 updates when he's not busy!"
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2010-01-22 , 14:12
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#283
Many users discuss about N900 being a phone or tablet, and uses that as an excuse for why Nokia ignored Maemo in their recent Ovi Maps announcement.

I just can't understand then why every single Reviews on the web classified it as phone, and in most cases as an Android/iPhone competitor. Nokia is not complaining that it should be compared to other tablets... The fact is this situation is comfortable for them:
- When some mobile feature is missing, it is a tablet and thus was designed with that in mind
- In other cases, it is a mobile with a new O.S. that will eventually catch up
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:28
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#284
Originally Posted by russo_br View Post
... excuse for why Nokia ignored Maemo in their recent Ovi Maps announcement....

... The fact is this situation is comfortable for them:
- When some mobile feature is missing, it is a tablet and thus was designed with that in mind
- In other cases, it is a mobile with a new O.S. that will eventually catch up
... oh yes, and when some functionality is not working, it is beta, for geeks, ...

... or you should buy you the next beta demo version of Maemo 6 :-(

... and yes, forgotten: It is the most expensive, but not Flagship device.
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2010-01-22 , 14:33
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#285
Originally Posted by pns View Post
Qt based apps must be under development now. 4.6 was just out and 4.7 is bringing a lot to table. So, getting it out based on Qt will not happen now. There are some differences between M5 and M6 UI and they need different UI code even if they code it in Qt. Also, turn-by-turn navigation needs text to speech converter. This is still not available on Maemo from Nokia. So, there is a lot which needs development and my guess is Nokia is in fix. if they spend time on M5, they will get delayed on M6.
About turn-by-turn navigation needing text to speech converter, I don't think this is correct. As far as I know the voices are recorded and associated with specific phrases like "turn left", "take an U-Turn" and so on... Even Tom-Tom GPS devices allowed users to record their own voices to customize their voice guided navigation (that resulted in a lot of funny sets of voices... )

Based on the assumption that Maps for Maemo doesn't require text-to-speech capabilities and also that Nokia already have recorded voices available in various languages, my guess is that it would take very little effort to at least implement the voice guidance. Additional features from Ovi Maps 3.0 like traffic info or guides would be harder to implement, but voice guidance would be a start, even considering that Nokia Maps 1.0 on my N95 already did that a few year ago...
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:48
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#286
Originally Posted by russo_br View Post
... my guess is that it would take very little effort to at least implement the voice guidance. Additional features from Ovi Maps 3.0 like traffic info or guides would be harder to implement, but voice guidance would be a start, even considering that Nokia Maps 1.0 on my N95 already did that a few year ago...
Sure, but i Nokia VP states that further development for N900/Maemo5 is not on the roadmap ... simply forget it. We can now
1) return n900 if we are in the 2-week period after buying
2) wait for applicable google navigation (that will not happen)
3) wait for navigation on OpenStreetMap ... that's what would be most preferrable
4) hope there is an update path to Maemo6. Guss this is also unlikely, given the fact that we have a big number of SW repositories ... and will get a new one in winter 2010 ...
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:51
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#287
Originally Posted by Jaco2k View Post
...or get a Symbian device and do it today for free?
Or keep the E71 that is being replaced by the N900 for another few months, and use it for a while as the maps offering on Symbian is better.

Interesting thought, that. Thanks Jaco2k.
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:52
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#288
Originally Posted by slender View Post
Whole world already on N900?
It's a small world after all.
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2010-01-22 , 14:53
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#289
Originally Posted by Wiener View Post
Sure, but i Nokia VP states that further development for N900/Maemo5 is not on the roadmap ... simply forget it. We can now
1) return n900 if we are in the 2-week period after buying
2) wait for applicable google navigation (that will not happen)
3) wait for navigation on OpenStreetMap ... that's what would be most preferrable
4) hope there is an update path to Maemo6. Guss this is also unlikely, given the fact that we have a big number of SW repositories ... and will get a new one in winter 2010 ...
Or 5) Wait for the sygic release.
 
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2010-01-22 , 14:54
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#290
Originally Posted by Alan_Peery View Post
Or keep the E71 that is being replaced by the N900 for another few months, and use it for a while as the maps offering on Symbian is better.
Interesting thought, that. Thanks Jaco2k.
Symbian is no alternative, like WinMo. Just a bad joke, compared with Iphone, Android 2.X or Maemo. At the moment, I would only buy an Android as alternative: Also Linux kernel, lots more of support, and update to recent version even for oldest phone.
 
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