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#281
Originally Posted by penguinbait View Post
My new favorite usb adapter





Purchased at http://www.jaykang.com/ Ripped me off on shipping still trying to recoup, but got my adapter quickly.

USB A-Type Female to USB Mini-B Type 5 Pin Male Adapter
http://www.jaykang.com/usbafetousbm1.html
Welcome to the club... I purchased two few weeks back from Ebay.

(Link here if you want to take a look... I'm in no way related to this seller or endorse you to buy one.)
 
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#282
I bought a set of adapters from Big Lots for $10 --- came with USB to ethernet, 2 USB 2.0 cables, a small pouch, etc.; this is it: http://cgi.ebay.com/Travel-Solutions...QQcmdZViewItem Of course, it included the type of adapter pictured above.

They have something similar at Best Buy for $20. If you have either of these stores around you, I would recommend buying this set b/c it's a better value. Otherwise, you're spending the rest of the money on shipping.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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#283
I just ordered one of these adaptors in germany from K&M http://www.kmelektronik.de/ part number 16204

The web site claims that they are mini-a, but they are in fact mini-b and fit into the n800: http://www.kmelektronik.de/main_site...r=16204&Shop=0

This adapter is EUR 1.99 and if you have it delivered to your local K&M ship you don't have to pay any shipping.

But it doesn't switch into OTG mode (no 4/5 connection) automatically. I'll see if i can open it carefully and add the missing connection.
 
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#284
The usb of n800 and n810 are the same?
I have n810, it is usb A ? I have hear "micro usb" somewhere...?
 
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#285
Originally Posted by atlas95 View Post
The usb of n800 and n810 are the same?
I have n810, it is usb A ? I have hear "micro usb" somewhere...?
n810 uses micro USB indeed, not the same
 
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#286
Got a reply from PCmobile:
"CMUH1 is a standard min USB host cable, which a mini A.
PFTHU is non standard, which is mini B and has no accessory detection pins
connected."

That means the host cable here: http://pc-mobile.net/zvm.htm COULD work automatically out of the box, but no way to be sure. They have two, one mini A to female A, and one mini A to mini A. If someone tries it please post the results, as it would be nice to have a worldwide source of a working adapter, even if its a bit pricey
 
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#287
Originally Posted by Cptnodegard View Post
PFTHU is non standard, which is mini B and has no accessory detection pins
connected."
But doesn't "has no accessory detection pins connected" mean that it will not do the automatic switch into host mode?

Last edited by Master of Gizmo; 2008-01-09 at 10:37.
 
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#288
Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo View Post
But doesn't "has no accessory detection pins connected" mean that it will not do the automatic switch into host mode?
It does, but thats PFTHU. Im linking to CMUH1. In the mail i asked them if those two were different, seeing they look alike except for the mini plug. And the answer was, as you can see, CMUH1 is A, other is B
Thats why technically it should work with CMUH1, but no way to know for sure without knowing what method ZVM uses to switch to host mode

Last edited by Cptnodegard; 2008-01-09 at 11:33.
 
Posts: 245 | Thanked: 25 times | Joined on Apr 2007
#289
I cut away the plastic from the end of a standard mini-b male to A-male cable, only to find that there was no connection for pin 4. So, I bridged pins 4 & 5 with a TINY blob of solder (you'll need a very fine point on your iron), as close to the body of the plug as I could. Made sure it was flat, with no excess solder above or below the pins to potentially bend the pins in the N800 socket. I then put some hot-melt glue where the cut-away plastic was for insulation, re-assembled the metal shell mini-B plug, and shrink-wrapped it. Finally, I cut the cable, and soldered a female A end onto it.

None of this is new, but just be aware of the fact that even when you cut away the ends of a mini-B connector, it may not be possible to bridge 4 & 5 at a terminal, but with a little care, the pins can be shorted. This puts it into OTG mode automatically. If you had a small enough tip, you might be able to do this without disassembling the B end, but it's awfully cramped.

I'll try to post some pictures I took of the process tonight.
 
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#290
I have read the threads on the N800 and N810 but it does get a little confusing since a lot of time as passed since the start of these threads and I'm not 100% sure where each device is at as far as support goes.

Since this is the N800 thread I'll ask about the N800 (which would be my option to purchase since it's cheaper and from what it looks like does everything the N810 does due to the new OS).

So if I got an N800 and upgraded the OS would I be able to plug a USB device like a keyboard and have it work without the use of "custom" wiring? By custom wiring I mean getting some cables/connectors and actually taking them apart to fit the N800s needs. I don't mind buying extra cables or converters, it seems this is obviously necessary if you want to get a USB device to work on the N800, but I'm just not clear whether you still have to hack the wiring anymore to get a USB device to work on the N800 (or whether store-bought converters/cables will do the job now).

Oh, I'm just asking about the hardware requirements btw. I understand you have to do other things in the software to get host mode to work (even with the new OS).

Thanks, sorry for the lengthy question.
 
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