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2010-02-12
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Originally Posted by epage
I'm still a bit behind on versions, but I saw a similar message when I upgraded from (I believe) 0.7.4 to 0.7.5. I don't see that it should make a difference, but I did that upgrade via apt-get on the command line.
I've had GTalk, Facebook (XMPP), Skype, and TOR running for the last couple days. Last night I hit the network error issue and got a very similar (baffling) log. I'm contemplating what additional traces might help me get an insight into what is going on.
After a reboot the error has not come back yet.
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2010-02-12
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@epage
I got another network error, this one sorted itself out by disabling and enabling TOR. I believe it occurred when switching from T-Mo to wifi. I have a copy of the log for this. I can post / pm / put it in bugzilla if you want it. Looks to be the same error as the last one.
I got another network error, this one sorted itself out by disabling and enabling TOR. I believe it occurred when switching from T-Mo to wifi. I have a copy of the log for this. I can post / pm / put it in bugzilla if you want it. Looks to be the same error as the last one.
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2010-02-13
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#284
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0.7.13 is going to the auto-builder and contains a bugfix for something introduced in 0.7.11
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2010-02-13
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Reminder for those reading this, this is heavily Maemo 4.1 specific
I don't mean this to argue against you about which is better, there are use cases for each, I was using Dialcentral exclusively earlier today on my n900, I'm just interested in us both understanding how we use each app. This could possibly improve our experiences with each and help guide me in improving both.
I admit, I don't use my chat history all that much and when I do I go to the GV website rather than using Dialcentral or RTComm's history. I'm not a heavy texter and never really developed a dependence on it but it sounds like some do since I think I heard a lot of people clamoring for an optional traditional SMS history viewer for the n900.
I'm not a heavy texter and haven't been interested in drastically improving Dialcentral's texting interface. I considered that outside of its scope and have asked people if they were interested, to go ahead and write one. I think I even brought up the idea of doing something like TOR before (I just never had the idea of integrating the phone calling till last September which is what kicked off TOR).
For me, the benefits of Dialcentral are
Uggh, too many long posts in one night, I'm off to bed.
I don't mean this to argue against you about which is better, there are use cases for each, I was using Dialcentral exclusively earlier today on my n900, I'm just interested in us both understanding how we use each app. This could possibly improve our experiences with each and help guide me in improving both.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
TOR Benefits
Likes:
- Stand-alone app that launches relatively quickly,
- With one click I see all my SMS messages, Transcribed voicemails - or both,
- I often reply to a text more than to a person/contact so I like that I just click on the SMS I want to reply to and I can immediately start to type away.
- Better notification support
- Always in the background, so when responding to apps its faster to load
- There is some load time when you bring up the contact list, probably per person whether its faster or slower than loading Dialcentral
I admit, I don't use my chat history all that much and when I do I go to the GV website rather than using Dialcentral or RTComm's history. I'm not a heavy texter and never really developed a dependence on it but it sounds like some do since I think I heard a lot of people clamoring for an optional traditional SMS history viewer for the n900.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
I'm not sure I understand this Dialcentral Benefit. A new message comes in with RTComm, I read it, reply, and then if its a one-shot message, I close it. For either, if I want to create a new message I go the contacts list, dialpad, etc.
- I often reply to a text more than to a person/contact so I like that I just click on the SMS I want to reply to and I can immediately start to type away.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
The wrap is a really annoying behavior that a bug has been filed to me. I think its a GTK issue and is reproducible on my desktop. I thought I created a work around for it in the latest version...
Dislikes:
Still some odd formatting in the SMS text entry page. I can never see how many characters are left without scrolling down - and the text doesn't wrap/stop at the right edge of the entry window.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
I believe its an RTComm issue
Dislikes:
- I'm sure this has nothing to do with OneRing but the IM Log Viewer app that got installed with RTComm shows the very first vmail to be from today - when in actuality it's nine days old. Already then I think I started to distrust the whole package.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
The left side isn't a set of "tabs" but a list of participants. Selecting them doesn't really do anything. You see your callback number because that is the "alias" I made associated with your account so there wouldn't be any ambiguity of what phone you made calls from.
- When I am in the Chat application I can see the list of my contacts. If I select one of them I am taken to a screen to enter a text message - with two 'tabs' on the left (one with my phone number) and one the name of the contact.
I don't understand why my phone number is shown there nor do I understand if I will be issuing an SMS if I am in that 'tab' and an 'IM' if I am in the other 'tab'. Also, the screen always defaults so that the full phone number/contact name is never shown and I have to drag the divider out a bit every time.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
I believe so, unsure what is support to happen there
- When I double-tap my phone number as mentioned above I get a message pop-up saying 'Not available'. So, ok?
Originally Posted by silvermountain
If you are "chatting" with a contact on your GV list, it sends a text. If its on your GTalk list, it sends an IM.
- I have both IM and SMS capabilities for many of my contacts in this app I am lost as to what feature in the app does what.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
Unsure what was going on with the sender phone number. It might be a GV thing.
- I sent a friend what I THOUGHT was an IM and her reply back was 'who is this?' I later saw that message in DC so I can only assume it was an SMS but since she didn't know who sent it I (and I text her a lot from DC) I can only assume that it looked different on her end.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
I just tried it and it left the contacts list open for me. I'm unsure what the discrepancy between our use cases was.
- When closing the instant messaging window - I always close the whole app.
Originally Posted by silvermountain
Its one of those trade-offs: should I and every other protocol implementer work on our own imperfect UI to handle things or do we leverage a common imperfect UI and save a lot of work.
You're a great developer and I'm just sad that you have to put your work into a ****-application like the Nokia-chat one instead of doing something own like the great DC app you developed.
I'm not a heavy texter and haven't been interested in drastically improving Dialcentral's texting interface. I considered that outside of its scope and have asked people if they were interested, to go ahead and write one. I think I even brought up the idea of doing something like TOR before (I just never had the idea of integrating the phone calling till last September which is what kicked off TOR).
For me, the benefits of Dialcentral are
- When TOR is messed up
- Support for CSVs (I don't like importing my csvs into the Maemo 5 contact list because it makes it annoying when I download a new one)
- Call history
Uggh, too many long posts in one night, I'm off to bed.
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2010-02-13
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Hey silvermountain, you should grab a more current version of DialCentral.
Eric has cleaned up the coding for SMS texting and it's so much better than before.
Definitely check it out.
Eric has cleaned up the coding for SMS texting and it's so much better than before.
Definitely check it out.
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2010-02-13
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Originally Posted by Addison
For clarification, Eric was the previous maintainer, I'm Ed.
Hey silvermountain, you should grab a more current version of DialCentral.
Eric has cleaned up the coding for SMS texting and it's so much better than before.
Definitely check it out.
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2010-02-14
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Originally Posted by Addison
Hey silvermountain, you should grab a more current version of DialCentral.
Eric has cleaned up the coding for SMS texting and it's so much better than before.
Definitely check it out.
Hey,
I'm using 1.0.10-8 so I THINK I'm using the latest one.
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AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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2010-02-14
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I noticed I can't stop a call once the phone start to ring on the other end even if I hang up on my end.
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2010-02-16
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I've played around with OneRing a bit and found three things that I really dislike/would like to see changed;
a) There is no date in the timestamp on incoming text messages.
Today I received a text in Onering that was stamped 15:01 or something and I replied to it - without knowing that it was sent 15:01 the previous day.. I'd like something like a date or an x hours/days ago stamp,
b) If I have the ability to receive both sms and IM's from a person these message types both come in in windows labelled "Instant Message", confusing,
c) I wish there was a message log in Onering that was as easy to view as the one in Dialcentral (chronological list of all sms and/OR transcribed vmails.
a) There is no date in the timestamp on incoming text messages.
Today I received a text in Onering that was stamped 15:01 or something and I replied to it - without knowing that it was sent 15:01 the previous day.. I'd like something like a date or an x hours/days ago stamp,
b) If I have the ability to receive both sms and IM's from a person these message types both come in in windows labelled "Instant Message", confusing,
c) I wish there was a message log in Onering that was as easy to view as the one in Dialcentral (chronological list of all sms and/OR transcribed vmails.
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My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
So, I'll be more than happy to change any of my usage should that be needed:
1) Dialcentral
Likes:
- Stand-alone app that launches relatively quickly,
- With one click I see all my SMS messages, Transcribed voicemails - or both,
- I often reply to a text more than to a person/contact so I like that I just click on the SMS I want to reply to and I can immediately start to type away.
Dislikes:
Still some odd formatting in the SMS text entry page. I can never see how many characters are left without scrolling down - and the text doesn't wrap/stop at the right edge of the entry window.
2) OneRing/RTComm/Nokia Chat
Dislikes:
- I'm sure this has nothing to do with OneRing but the IM Log Viewer app that got installed with RTComm shows the very first vmail to be from today - when in actuality it's nine days old. Already then I think I started to distrust the whole package.
- When I am in the Chat application I can see the list of my contacts. If I select one of them I am taken to a screen to enter a text message - with two 'tabs' on the left (one with my phone number) and one the name of the contact.
I don't understand why my phone number is shown there nor do I understand if I will be issuing an SMS if I am in that 'tab' and an 'IM' if I am in the other 'tab'. Also, the screen always defaults so that the full phone number/contact name is never shown and I have to drag the divider out a bit every time.
- When I double-tap my phone number as mentioned above I get a message pop-up saying 'Not available'. So, ok?
- I have both IM and SMS capabilities for many of my contacts in this app I am lost as to what feature in the app does what.
- I sent a friend what I THOUGHT was an IM and her reply back was 'who is this?' I later saw that message in DC so I can only assume it was an SMS but since she didn't know who sent it I (and I text her a lot from DC) I can only assume that it looked different on her end.
- When closing the instant messaging window - I always close the whole app.
Anyway, hate it.
You're a great developer and I'm just sad that you have to put your work into a ****-application like the Nokia-chat one instead of doing something own like the great DC app you developed.
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes