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My time with Jolla came to abrupt end a month ago when it got stolen and I have no way I could afford a new one.

My six months with Jolla were almost pure love. It was nice device to use: so fast, fluent and intuitive. Everything just worked and monthly updates and active community were pampering me. New, cool and smooth apps were a supprice coming from Symvbian.

Weirdly the most missed function of Jolla is for me is ability to create now-playing lists in music player. I waited for that functionality 10 years!

There was only one thing I missed from old days and I noticed it after I reverted back to my dying N8 after my phone got stolen. The camera. Jolla just did not have what N8 had and now camera of Jolla feels a showstopper.

Now my I think I'm gonna to wait for a native sailfish device with better camera (or possibility to install it to good camera phone) if I ever can afford smartphone,
 
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Is it possible to achieve gapless audio playback with Android music players such has Poweramp? Has anyone tried this?
 
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has anyone bought/tried TOH cases from flypig?
 
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First impressions on first day of ownership:

1) No USB Mass Storage support. Unfortunately we'll have to live with this due to Sailfish's file system setup (which will become more supported by Linux OSes as time goes on), but that feature would have been handy if possible.

2) I can't find my external SD Card's position on the file system. I believe it is supposed to be in /media but there is nothing in that folder in my case. My card is formatted FAT32 so it should be mounted without a hitch. Perhaps the destination changed again, anyone with pointers?
 
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Originally Posted by Paspie View Post
First impressions on first day of ownership:

1) No USB Mass Storage support. Unfortunately we'll have to live with this due to Sailfish's file system setup (which will become more supported by Linux OSes as time goes on), but that feature would have been handy if possible.
Yeah, it is unfortunate but indeed inevitable due to the big limitations of supporting mass storage directly. I think I've seen people doing some experiments with exporting loop files over mass storage and ideas about exporting uSD partitions, so I guess we will see if something comes from this.

BTW, I'm using sshfs/sftp with public key authentication and it works like charm.

Originally Posted by Paspie View Post
2) I can't find my external SD Card's position on the file system. I believe it is supposed to be in /media but there is nothing in that folder in my case. My card is formatted FAT32 so it should be mounted without a hitch. Perhaps the destination changed again, anyone with pointers?
It should be in /mount/sdcard/<UUID>/ (UPDATE: the correct path is indeed /media/sdcard/<UUID>/, not /mount/sdcard/<UUID>/) and I can indeed see my EXT4 formatted partition on the uSD on this path just fine.

The bash script that does the mounting is located in /usr/sbin/mount-sd.sh and should support FAT32.
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Originally Posted by Paspie View Post
First impressions on first day of ownership:

1) No USB Mass Storage support. Unfortunately we'll have to live with this due to Sailfish's file system setup (which will become more supported by Linux OSes as time goes on), but that feature would have been handy if possible.

2) I can't find my external SD Card's position on the file system. I believe it is supposed to be in /media but there is nothing in that folder in my case. My card is formatted FAT32 so it should be mounted without a hitch. Perhaps the destination changed again, anyone with pointers?
1) Well, that's unfortunately the direction in which all major OS's are moving. The MTP protocol originates from Microsoft and has some flaws, but it is understandable, that Mass Storage causes problems. However, there is a way...

2) How big is the card? I have 32GB one, formatted to FAT32 and everything works fine (yes, it should show up in /media). Maybe try to reformat it?

EDIT: Didn't see MartinK's answer, so just to add here: I'm using sftp/fish as well and it's a very comfortable way of moving files.

EDIT2: It is indeed in /media/sdcard/<UUID>/, not /mount/sdcard/<UUID>/ in my case...

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Update: this app has sorted the first issue out (which in turn makes the second point irrelevant). Transfer is slow but good enough for me.
 
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Originally Posted by nodevel View Post
1) Well, that's unfortunately the direction in which all major OS's are moving. The MTP protocol originates from Microsoft and has some flaws,
Well, I wouldn't call it flawed - I would rather call it brain-dead stupid I was aware the protocol is rather simple and originally targeted very simple media player devices - but haven't really though it can be that bad until I've read the Wikipedia article. As it stands at the moment (no support for seek of any kind, only one operation can be done at a time,...) the MTP protocol is a lost cause for any other use case than copy-a-few-files-and-pray-it-works unless it is totally overhauled to resemble something at least semi-functional.

Originally Posted by nodevel View Post
but it is understandable, that Mass Storage causes problems. However, there is a way...

2) How big is the card? I have 32GB one, formatted to FAT32 and everything works fine (yes, it should show up in /media). Maybe try to reformat it?

EDIT: Didn't see MartinK's answer, so just to add here: I'm using sftp/fish as well and it's a very comfortable way of moving files.

EDIT2: It is indeed in /media/sdcard/<UUID>/, not /mount/sdcard/<UUID>/ in my case...
Oops, fixed, thanks!
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#2899
I have sent my Jolla for repair(vibration, speaker, reboots) and have been (re)using N9 as main phone for several days now. Some comparison below:
- Jolla is way(3x) faster, but N9 feels smoother and more polished and complete product.
- N9 AMOLED screen is joy to look at, it has a magnitude better readability in the sun than Jolla screen.
- N9 feels premium, where Jolla feels cheap.
- Jolla UI had evolved to the right direction from N9, getting rid of buttons. I really miss Jolla swipes on N9. But still Jolla had a long way to go to make its UI logical and easy to use all the time with various tasks. It lacks the small tricks and clever moves that are making the user experience WOW.
- overall Sailfish in Jolla wins hands down over Harmattan, only inferior in smoothness and visual appeal. I hope Jolla to stay afloat for producing Sailfish OS 2.0 - that will be something!

So in conclusion - Sailfish is really promising and heading down the right track. But HW Jolla uses is just cheap and lacking the Finnish design virtues.
Hope Jolla will do its homework and shine with Jolla 2 soon.
 

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#2900
Going back to the SD card issue, mine is a generic 4GB Class 6 card that came packed with another device. It mounts fine in my Galaxy S2 and my PC. I have tried taking it out and reinserting it to no avail. I'm considering buying a bigger SD card so I want to make sure there's nothing wrong with my hardware.

EDIT: Just tried a Sandisk Ultra 2GB card, and it works fine! Maybe there's only limited support in the kernel or something.

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