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i'm wondering if they are depending on the release of QT 4.8 before they can release the consumer harmattan device?
 
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Ok, here's what I think Nokia should do: Release the developer device today and sell it only from their webshop possibly empty and let people install what they want on it and let the maemo/meego community fix bugs and write apps. Then they should upgrade Harmattan to MeeGo and base it on MeeGo 1.3 and release the consumer device when that's done.

Edit: Releasing the consumer device with Maemo6 is a VERY bad idea!
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
Ok, here's what I think Nokia should do: Release the developer device today and sell it only from their webshop possibly empty and let people install what they want on it and let the maemo/meego community fix bugs and write apps. Then they should upgrade Harmattan to MeeGo and base it on MeeGo 1.3 and release the consumer device when that's done.

Edit: Releasing the consumer device with Maemo6 is a VERY bad idea!
Waiting for MeeGo 1.3 is even worse, still 6 months away and its not as simple as just getting a version of MeeGo and slapping it on a device. Waiting for 1.3 would been postponing for quite a long while.
 

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Waiting for MeeGo 1.3 is even worse, still 6 months away and its not as simple as just getting a version of MeeGo and slapping it on a device. Waiting for 1.3 would been postponing for quite a long while.
Nokia have to upgrade Qt-SDK and some apps and Ovistore infrastructure too, that's the problem. I think MeeGo 1.3 is scheduled for an October release so only five months away.

Edit: And the MeeGo N900 DE edition should be covering the N950 too. More or less the same hardware so shouldn't be that hard.
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Knowing Nokia, "later this year" could easily mean Q5.

At this point, I don't even understand why there is a consumer device if it isn't an geek device. Who other than us could possibly want this premature, futureless device?

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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
Nokia have to upgrade Qt-SDK and some apps and Ovistore infrastructure too, that's the problem. i think MeeGo 1.3 is scheduled for an October release so only five months away.
Then there is there own UI what sits on top, and many many months of testing what goes into consumer grade products
And who is to say that MeeGo 1.3 will be any more mature than 1.2 with all the changes planned for it.

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Then there is there own UI what sits on top, and many many months of testing what goes into to consumer grade products
That's what takes five months. Releasing the consumer device with Maemo6 will give the Nokia "MeeGo" device lots of badwill and that is a bad thing for the MeeGo community. That was most likely the cause why all Harmattan talks were throwned out from Meegoconf.

Edit: And there should of course be two consumer devices, one with hwkb and one without.
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Originally Posted by xerxes2 View Post
That's what takes five months. Releasing the consumer device with Maemo6 will give the Nokia "MeeGo" device lots of badwill and that is a bad thing for the MeeGo community. That was most likely the cause why all Harmattan talks were throwned out from Meegoconf.
MeeGo 1.3 is taking 6 months, it will be much longer before we see Products based on that version.
1.2 is out find me a product based on it? WeTab guys have promised to update there OS to it but till now there's 0.
At MeeGo Conference Dublin we was promised Many Consumer Products would be released by the Next Conference, That Conference as now been and Gone and I'm still waiting for all these Gadgets they promised

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And who is to say that MeeGo 1.3 will be any more mature than 1.2 with all the changes planned for it.
Well, MeeGo is mostly based on Fedora and Suse so most new stuff is already tested on those distros, like Systemd. There are no guarantees before it's done and delivered but imho 1.3 will most likely be better than 1.2.
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If the consumer device as been put back till late summer/early Autumn like stated in this thread somewhere, then you can expect next to 0 marketing.
As that is when Nokia's next gen Symbian devices and Win Phone 7.5 devices are due.
So expect a sales failure caused from within just so they can justify killing MeeGo/Harmattan from having a Nokia mass market Future
 

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