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TokyoDan is offline TokyoDan
2008-07-20 , 02:26
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#21
I don't need for the N810 to be a "DJ's toy". I was just making a point about the kind of applications that can be expected on the iPod Touch because of the popularity of the iPod Touch and the number of developers supporting it (not to mention Apple's rigid requirements about the quality of apps than can be hosted in the Apps Store, which I think is a very good thing).

Originally Posted by lazuli View Post
you've got to take into consideration that everything we get from the NIT is free. you or I don't have the right to gripe about what is freely offered to us. the better attitude would be to be happy and thankful with what we have right now, provide feedback, support any ongoing projects and contribute to the community.

i'm a student and i stuck with the touch until i can't take how i had to hack and slash to get my books and pdfs working in it. i fail at using the portrait oscreen keyboard and i find i didn't actually bring my headphones with it most of the time, defeating its purpose as an ipod.

the NIT may not be a DJ's toy (as per your posted links) but it is a developer's, student's, writer's, hiker's and artist's machine. i suggest you sell your 810 and get the ipod touch right now and get peace of mind as i had when i sold my touch for the 800
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Thesandlord is offline Thesandlord
2008-07-20 , 02:41
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#22
One big difference. That App costs 20 bucks, something i could never fork out on a whim. I had to work for a month so I could buy a memory card for the tablet (I'm not that old FYI). The iPhone is more like a Palm product. Simple, with tons of developers. I guess the tablets are the the GP2X in a PSP and DS dominated world. But I would totally would love to see more smooth UI and things like that. I believe Bruce is trying to do just this.
 
taimishu23 is offline taimishu23
2008-07-20 , 02:44
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#23
I think we should all be entitled to our own opinions regarding different devices and their "usefulness" and "user-friendliness". We all have varying uses for the devices that we buy or want to buy and in the end, I don't see the point in expounding your preferences in an attempt to prove that you are somehow more "right" than the next guy. That being said, I'll say its hard for an OS to be both integrated AND expandable. Integration usually means closed development and $$$ whereas high expandability means open (sometimes glitchy) development and usually no $$$. To each his own.
 
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Wes Doobner is offline Wes Doobner
2008-07-20 , 03:24
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#24
Originally Posted by prk60091 View Post
the true finger touch interface my wife never has to use a stylus on her ipod touch

So what? What is with this a priori assumption that 'finger touch' is some kind of holy grail?

Frankly I can't see how apps such as myPaint - even things like xword, and much of the 'regular' www (i.e. not jacked-up to suit iphones) can be even remotely useful without the >>>option<<< of a stylus input... ah but, whatever... finger touch input rulez doods!!!

Blech. This thread is yet another waste of time and ever more precious energy.
 

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cybertron is offline cybertron
2008-07-20 , 03:58
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Well i tend to agree with tokyo. i have been a bit frustrated with the functioality of my n800. apps crash and run slow and its annoying. however, the functioality is still really nice and has lots of pros. i think free is awesome but eve while i'm a student i'd gladly pay $5-$10 for some of these apps to run a boot smoother. i love open source and i hate microsoft, but each camp has its down sides. i think there needs to be a happy medium and hopefully there will be in the future. i will say that i'm using my n800 a lot more. hopefully as new chips emerge we'll see more powerful devices. althought i'm not sure what makes the ipod/iphone so smooth...
 
cybertron is offline cybertron
2008-07-20 , 04:01
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Originally Posted by Wes Doobner View Post
So what? What is with this a priori assumption that 'finger touch' is some kind of holy grail?

Frankly I can't see how apps such as myPaint - even things like xword, and much of the 'regular' www (i.e. not jacked-up to suit iphones) can be even remotely useful without the >>>option<<< of a stylus input... ah but, whatever... finger touch input rulez doods!!!

Blech. This thread is yet another waste of time and ever more precious energy.

yeah... i really dont get why peopled dont like a stylus. i'd take a stylus over finger any day of the week
 
metroeloise is offline metroeloise
2008-07-20 , 07:25
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#27
Piping in on the Stylus issue: FMP -> I found it awkward at first and, not having an itouch to play with, had a little lusting for it. The fact that, for whatever marketing reasons, my way capable n800 didn't PIM, I was driven back to my trusty clie sj33! That was when I noticed the placement of the stylus was an issue. Pulling it up and out I find easier than in and out of the side. Odd. Such a small thing. Gotten use to it.

There does seem to be the issue of different machines and environments for different folks and needs. The great part of capitalism is that it provides mechanisms for that development. Potentially.

Another part is that gap between what the machine-software combination can do and what you think it can do or want it to do. The PIM issue being a case in point. Just have to take in the information and move along. I personally began using my clie again and look forward to the n800 eventually having functioning PIM (close I take it?)

In the mean time there has been many valuable lessons in my n800 experience. One cluster of them is found here on the Forums. Great people supporting each other through a great product.

Just something about community! Thanks all.
 
slha89 is offline slha89
2008-07-20 , 07:56
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#28
Originally Posted by TokyoDan View Post
feel my N810 is like a 2008 Ferrari powered by a 1980 Mustang
No, thank you. An engine which needs service every 5000miles? And lasts hopefully 50000miles?
There's no substitute for cui - only more cui
 
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tso is offline tso
2008-07-20 , 10:35
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#29
i keep wondering what people have against a stylus...
 

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Hedgecore is offline Hedgecore
2008-07-20 , 23:04
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#30
They're really not comparable. When the 770 first came out, people were comparing it to the Palms... then the iPhone... then the eeePC. (I've got an eeePC and they're two totally different classes of device.) I don't think there *are* any same-class competitors yet. Nokia made something that was a lot like everything else but moreso different than everything else.

I'd like to see an 800x480 app on an iPod touch. (Was that fanboyish enough?)
 
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