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2014-12-18
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Me want votes...
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2014-12-18
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Originally Posted by juiceme
HtheB is/was one of the candidates having collected enough karma to vote withoit having linked
True, yeah, but technicality really.
It is a really rare beast indeed who manages to collect karma from just wiki & blogs. I almost tend to say there's nobody like that
But I agree, in general it will be quite hard to collect enough karma to vote (or even get voted
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2014-12-19
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Originally Posted by juiceme
You get fined each time you don't vote (150-200AUD)
What happens to you if you do not vote? Just harassing or will you have to do jail time?
So that's local council, state and federal.
It's a joke and a shame, all to amuse the docile peasantry here.
I haven't voted since 2007...
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2014-12-19
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Originally Posted by bingomion
I can haz your votes?
You get fined each time you don't vote (150-200AUD)
So that's local council, state and federal.
It's a joke and a shame, all to amuse the docile peasantry here.
I haven't voted since 2007...
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2014-12-19
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Why don't you vote in the party which would allow people to refuse voting, if they want to?
Best wishes.
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2014-12-19
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Originally Posted by bingomion
I consider that a really bad practice! We hold our right to vote as a honorary responsibility, not something that is forced to us from above!
You get fined each time you don't vote (150-200AUD)
So that's local council, state and federal.
It's a joke and a shame, all to amuse the docile peasantry here.
I haven't voted since 2007...
I have to admit that even as I lived for three years in WA back when I was under the age limit to vote yet, I do not ever remember hearing about that kind of procedure... Maybe it is a newer thing, that was back in the early eighties?
Originally Posted by Wikiwide
@Wikiwide has a really good point there, this thing must piss off so many people they'd constitute a reasonably large number of people to do something about it!
Why don't you vote in the party which would allow people to refuse voting, if they want to?
In finland we have a system where if large enough group of people sign an online petition that some law has to be created/deleted/modified, then the parliament has to process it through the normal law-making procedures. It does not guarantee that it gets passed, there have been both proposals that have been accepted and rejected, but at least processing it is mandatory.
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2014-12-19
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re Aust voting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electo...m_of_Australia
"Voting is compulsory both at federal elections and at elections for the state and territory legislatures. In the states of South Australia, Tasmania and Western Australia voting at local elections is not compulsory.[6] About 5% of enrolled voters fail to vote at most elections. People in this situation are asked to explain their failure to vote. If no satisfactory reason is provided (for example, illness or religious prohibition), a fine of up to $170 is imposed,[7] and failure to pay the fine may result in a court hearing."
Edit, wikipedia is wrong: Voting is also compulsory in most local government elections.
"Why don't you vote in the party which would allow people to refuse voting, if they want to?"
Because they wont win, and because of the preferential voting system, the vote goes to another party.
Jefferson said about democracy: the tyranny of the majority over the minority (i.e., 51% enslaving the other 49%).
So true!
Last edited by bingomion; 2014-12-19 at 12:07.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electo...m_of_Australia
"Voting is compulsory both at federal elections and at elections for the state and territory legislatures. In the states of South Australia, Tasmania and Western Australia voting at local elections is not compulsory.[6] About 5% of enrolled voters fail to vote at most elections. People in this situation are asked to explain their failure to vote. If no satisfactory reason is provided (for example, illness or religious prohibition), a fine of up to $170 is imposed,[7] and failure to pay the fine may result in a court hearing."
Edit, wikipedia is wrong: Voting is also compulsory in most local government elections.
"Why don't you vote in the party which would allow people to refuse voting, if they want to?"
Because they wont win, and because of the preferential voting system, the vote goes to another party.
Jefferson said about democracy: the tyranny of the majority over the minority (i.e., 51% enslaving the other 49%).
So true!
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2014-12-20
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority
worthwhile read, particularly when considering what's recently going on in maemo community. There's a reason why council terms are limited to 6 months and re-elections are triggered easily and even more so after HiFo got established.
That new order movement is aiming at smashing all that, establishing a small vocal group as in
and abandoning rules (particularly the mutual red button re-election rule) that were meant to counteract such processes, along the line of
anyway, good luck peeps
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worthwhile read, particularly when considering what's recently going on in maemo community. There's a reason why council terms are limited to 6 months and re-elections are triggered easily and even more so after HiFo got established.
That new order movement is aiming at smashing all that, establishing a small vocal group as in
Olson argues that when the benefits of political action (e.g., lobbying) are spread over fewer agents, there is a stronger individual incentive to contribute to that political activity. Narrow groups, especially those who can reward active participation to their group goals, might therefore be able to dominate or distort political process
Supermajority rules, constitutional limits on the powers of a legislative body, and the introduction of a Bill of Rights have been used to counter the problem.[2] A separation of powers may also be implemented to prevent the problem from happening internally in a government
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2014-12-30
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I have just voted now, have you ?
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