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Originally Posted by davidh101
They dont have the size NOR the money to compete with the US. US is where the winner is being declared, and that is Apple right now for several reasons. Revolutionary product, revolutionary integration of service and product, incredible application store, incredible customer service...............NOKIA could learn few things
I might be abit out of date, but I think the European market is where the competitiveness is on the SmartPhone market, and I think it is largely to do with the mobile networks not all operating on the same standards (been a while since i looked at the US market), and is coverage still an issue due to the physical size of the continent.
Within Europe, and the majority of the rest of the world (I think Japan is different), the same network technologies are used (all based around the old GSM technology....I know 3G isn't GSM)
The only reason why Apple have done so well is down to their Marketing Strategy, all they have done is taken functionality that is was already available on Symbian, and marketed it as if they were the first to ofer the solution......it also helped that they tied it in with iPods and iTunes
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Tex14
You can't just base it on profits, yes, they have made it user friendly, but it is the marketing that has made them big.
Just look at the profits that Apple made, they beat the WHOLE NOKIA with one product! Unbelievable. And yes they do have good marketing but they also have focused on one product and made it extremely user friendly and it payed off
When you look at all the other stuff Nokia delivers to the industry, they invest in so many areas, and are active in developing the future technologies, what do Apple do in any of this, if they invested in the industry in the same way Nokia did, they wouldn't have made profits anywhere near what they have done
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Tex14
tex you talk complete bollox and i'm bored of you already, dam wish you never came back after your ban b/c you aint changed still like to argue with stats that cant be backed and like to go against reality
They dont have the size NOR the money to compete with the US. US is where the winner is being declared, and that is Apple right now for several reasons. Revolutionary product, revolutionary integration of service and product, incredible application store, incredible customer service...............NOKIA could learn few things
nokia cant compete with US b/c money! REALLY!
yet they are biggest investor in mobile technology in the world,so stop talking crap
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Tex14
I agree on the whole one product / strong marketing / very user-friendly bit but most of Apple's profits come from their Mac and Mac-related sales. Let's not forget the goldmine that is iTunes!
Just look at the profits that Apple made, they beat the WHOLE NOKIA with one product! Unbelievable. And yes they do have good marketing but they also have focused on one product and made it extremely user friendly and it payed off
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
Why do you think they cant compete in the US?
tex you talk complete bollox and i'm bored of you already, dam wish you never came back after your ban b/c you aint changed still like to argue with stats that cant be backed and like to go against reality
nokia cant compete with US b/c money! REALLY!
yet they are biggest investor in mobile technology in the world,so stop talking crap
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Originally Posted by Tex14
Why do you think Apple can't compete with Nokia worldwide?
Why do you think they cant compete in the US?
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
They are. Their market share from 0 to 17% in a span of 3 years. NOKIA has declined in the US, probably less than 5% now
Why do you think Apple can't compete with Nokia worldwide?
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by Tex14
you say they are competing Worldwide then you give me a US stat to back up you crap, was you born a tool?
They are. Their market share from 0 to 17% in a span of 3 years. NOKIA has declined in the US, probably less than 5% now
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2010-02-20
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Originally Posted by NvyUs
Glad you wrote that, I was going to write something similar.......I don't want to sound like I don't like the US, but in this instance, it certainly is not the centre of the world.
tex you talk complete bollox and i'm bored of you already, dam wish you never came back after your ban b/c you aint changed still like to argue with stats that cant be backed and like to go against reality
nokia cant keep on money yet they are biggest investor in mobile technology in the world, stop talking crap
The US is to my knowledge a long way behind on the mobile world.
Originally Posted by Tex14
Revolutionary Product.......where......Symbian was out before iPhoneOS, and did everything it could do, except touch, but I think you will find that technology was stolen from Nokia anyway
They dont have the size NOR the money to compete with the US. US is where the winner is being declared, and that is Apple right now for several reasons. Revolutionary product, revolutionary integration of service and product, incredible application store, incredible customer service...............NOKIA could learn few things
Incredible App Store......I'll kinda give you that, but it certainly isn't the case anymore
Revolutionary Integration of Service and product..........except that they forgot to implement vital mobile features when they released the product, and are still only just starting to include some of them, the integration of bluetooth is amazing.....oh, no it's not
Incredible Customer Service......they had to, otherwise people would have ditched the iPhone long ago, I bet this has cost them a lot of money on issues such as the screens not working in the early ays, batteries overheating. Nokia has great customer service, just go to a local Nokia Repair Centre, and all was sorted, even better now you can completely reflash without them.
I think you will find that Apple stole a few things, the only good thing they have done is the marketing of their device
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