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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
Well ok if you have made the decision to stick with it and "go down with the ship". Houw bout you stfu and stop whining while the rest of us enjoy our cruise.
The device is not crappy, the browser for example is damn near perfect (just needs Flash 10.1). The N900 is more of a very rough diamond, it would be perfect with just a bit of polishing (mainly the things I pointed out). It remains sad to see that it is doubtful that will ever happen since Nokia has other plans.
Since I already chose it above the others which were available at the time, I am sticking by my decision and going down with the ship.
At least for a year, hoping to see Android 2.2+ on N900, among other things.
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
This is incorrect. The speedometer of this car is not defective.
No, you see that's Nokia's fault for not polishing the software enough. If I buy a car which has a defective speedometer it's the car makers fault if I go over the speed limit, not mine.
You have bought a car that has a perfectly functional speedometer, but then saw your buddies different model cars speedometer and decided you liked that speedometer better - and are now blaming your car manufacturer for not putting your buddies speedometer in your car.
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint
Oh so the months long wait for PR1.2 was a waste and it didn't give us any more stability or features which should have shipped with the device? And we aren't waiting for a PR1.3 to fix more, not to mention Ovi Maps 3 and a useful Ovi Store?
This is incorrect. The speedometer of this car is not defective.
You have bought a car that has a perfectly functional speedometer, but then saw your buddies different model cars speedometer and decided you liked that speedometer better - and are now blaming your car manufacturer for not putting your buddies speedometer in your car.
Originally Posted by Bratag
No, I will stay here and keep deterring potential buyers, such as myself only a short while ago, and hopefully push developers to try harder.
Well ok if you have made the decision to stick with it and "go down with the ship". Houw bout you stfu and stop whining while the rest of us enjoy our cruise.
And to all those calling me a troll for this, I quote:
Originally Posted by Frappacino
>> And why is it good for you?
>> This is your revenge?
Look in the mirror - you are 1 sided and fanboyish as you accuse him of being a troll.
If more indepth criticism had been aired out (like it is now) about Nokia's treatment of its customers, then I wont have bought the n900 either.
yes blame us "trolls" for not doing research, but research is no use if customers or those with prior experience of Nokia do not speak up.
You need both sides to a forum, otherwise this place is a cult just like many here accuse the "dumb" Apple fanboys of being.
Last edited by PradaBrada; 2010-06-11 at 20:00.
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
When I bought the first Android G1 phone, things were much worse than this. While Nokia fans might have issues when coming from Symbian and I agree that's a hard act to follow - if you compare with other new phone/platform combinations, it's a much fairer comparison.
-Mediaplayer has major playlist editing flaws and no equalizer
-Maemo Ovi Maps = **** compared to S60V5 Ovi Maps 3
-No functioning Application Store
-No commercial third-party applications or games
-No real Portrait Mode support
-No adequate usable Office applications
-Principally no real first or third party support
Maemo 5 isn't even a year old and already pretty much near its EOL
Every manufacturer leaves older hardware and their owners behind. Try talking to owners of palm tops like Mobile Pro and Jornada after cheap netbooks hit the market - the few dozen that were left, anyway. Phones are a little different, I guess, because if it still can make a phone call, someone can still get use out of it.
Keep in mind that people still on a 2 year contract with the G1 are being left behind by Google/Android. The Office applications were months after the phone release, and expensive. The 3rd party games and apps didn't start coming until iPhone devs started porting and the original Market had very little of any value in it for quite a while. And Android couldn't even save web pages or run more than limited javascript in the beginning. No wiki on a stick for Android 1.5. (Is it true that the iPhone still can't?)
To be honest, a decent web broswer and gnumeric and abiword still beats most of the available Android office stuff. It's slim pickings there on both platforms compared to all the entertainment and social networking apps. That doesn't make the N900 an inferior phone. It means that more people will pay for a twitter or facebook app or one with pictures of scantily clad college co-eds. I don't miss wading through those. :-)
I thought the article was very thoughtful and clarified the best features of the N900.
Terry (unfortunately iPhone still has the best flying related apps)
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2010-06-11
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#26
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
I see so you will stay on a community based forum that has nothing to do with Nokia, whining and moaning, while at the same time not getting rid of the device. In an attempt to push developers - all of whom support the very community you are annoying/bashing.
No, I will stay here and keep deterring potential buyers, such as myself only a short while ago, and hopefully push developers to try harder.:
In other words you are a d i c k.
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Humor .. : [*********] Alignment: Chaotic Evil
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Agro ... : |*****-----] Relic(s) : G1, N900
Class .. : Power Poster, Potential Coder
Humor .. : [*********] Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Patience : [***-------] Weapon(s): +2 Logic Mace
Agro ... : |*****-----] Relic(s) : G1, N900
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
You seem like an educated man and you speak some truth, you also repeat a lot of subjective opinions like they are truth. It is clear that you have ideas and strong opinions.
The device is not crappy, the browser for example is damn near perfect (just needs Flash 10.1). The N900 is more of a very rough diamond, it would be perfect with just a bit of polishing (mainly the things I pointed out). It remains sad to see that it is doubtful that will ever happen since Nokia has other plans.
Since I already chose it above the others which were available at the time, I am sticking by my decision and going down with the ship.
At least for a year, hoping to see Android 2.2+ on N900, among other things.
My question to you is....
Are you planning to or actually doing anything to help the community in constructive way? Or are you are you just going to sit at the keyboard moaning about everything you think is wrong with maego, the n900 and the people who are enjoying it?
Please tell me.........the suspense is killing me!
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by Bratag
Nokia sponsors this forum and hopefully also has employers visiting to remain in contact with the community and see how some users think about their products.
I see so you will stay on a community based forum that has nothing to do with Nokia, whining and moaning, while at the same time not getting rid of the device. In an attempt to push developers - all of whom support the very community you are annoying/bashing.
In other words you are a d i c k.
Also as I said, internet on the device is still unmatched.
But if you want to put it that way, yes, I am, how you say, kind of a dick.
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
You're the one that used the car analogy. The maps software works fine, for what it does. It simply lacks features present in other map software on the market. Features that, as far as I know, were never advertised as being on the device to begin with. The people you bought the phone from are under no obligation to make sure you get the best map software available today, and tomorrow, and the next day, on your phone. You bought the phone with the map software it has: That's what they gave you.
Oh so the months long wait for PR1.2 was a waste and it didn't give us any more stability or features which should have shipped with the device? And we aren't waiting for a PR1.3 to fix more, not to mention Ovi Maps 3 and a useful Ovi Store?
I'm not saying you can't ask for it, or that they can't bring it to you, or that they can't make it available for you to get. Just like your buddies speedometer.
What I am saying is that you act as if you're entitled to being coddled and spoonfed everything you want as soon as you want it.
You don't ask for things, you scream and insult and call people f****** idiots because you aren't happy with your device.
That's just nonsense, and the main reason I prefixed my initial response with it would be the only one; and I largely have been avoiding responding to you in any thread.
You just tried using a metaphor that failed miserably, so I fixed it for you.
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2010-06-11
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Originally Posted by PradaBrada
FTR, I want more smart, techie people and their friends to buy this phone so that there is a bigger pool of app developers and users. Dissing the phone you want others to develop on seems kind of weird to me.
No, I will stay here and keep deterring potential buyers, such as myself only a short while ago, and hopefully push developers to try harder.
And to all those calling me a troll for this, I quote:
Terry
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Since I already chose it above the others which were available at the time, I am sticking by my decision and going down with the ship.
At least for a year, hoping to see Android 2.2+ on N900, among other things.