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Just get an iPhone mate. Even a used SE 2020 for like 300$ will be up to date for the next 6 years or so.
 
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Just get an iPhone mate.
Didn't you read? He "needs" a GPL phone. That very much rules out an iPhone.
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Didn't you read? He "needs" a GPL phone. That very much rules out an iPhone.

A read a bunch of stuff and I figured out that the SE 2020 ticks all the other things plus more except the GPL.

“I need a phone that's usable as a daily driver and not something where you need to do lower level things or poke around in the bowels of the OS just to do the normal stuff.”

“Future updates”


Stuff like that and relatively low price, you can’t get with customs roms and other enthusiast phones.

The perfect phone doesn’t exist. Sometimes you have to check what comes closer to your needs and go that way
 

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No idea about GPL and hackabiliity, but HMD's Nokias have the least bloat and the longest OS support among Android phones
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the longest OS support among Android phones

No they don’t.
 

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Originally Posted by nikos523 View Post
No they don’t.
Alright, "and usually enjoy more upgrades to newer Android versions (unless limited by h/w compatibility)"
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Alright, "and usually enjoy more upgrades to newer Android versions (unless limited by h/w compatibility)"

Basically every company has longer and faster support than Nokia. 1+, Samsung, Google, heck even Xiaomi cheapos!
 

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Originally Posted by nikos523 View Post
Basically every company has longer and faster support than Nokia. 1+, Samsung, Google, heck even Xiaomi cheapos!
Hm, not really. Google does for the Pixel range but those others you mention are pretty much dead ends.

But this is anyway moot because android is not the answer. Too bad really the HMD Nokias are not bootable to alternate OS'es.
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Hm, not really. Google does for the Pixel range but those others you mention are pretty much dead ends.

But this is anyway moot because android is not the answer. Too bad really the HMD Nokias are not bootable to alternate OS'es.

Too bad Nokia’s are not Nokia anymore actually.
I just can’t stand mediocre software, features, support and this generic Chinese design from 2016.
 

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I haven't heard the best things about HMD devices maybe they were unlucky but earpiece issues occurred after a while on original and a replacement device. Search results seem to hint a few devices have this. Not sure if this has been solved.
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