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Intel has several licenses from ARM, and making inferior chips has never hurt their business before. If anything was going to "doom" intel, it would have been the Itanium fiasco or the terrible Pentium 4 performance. The mobile market is hardly a company-killer for intel, especially because all those underpowered netbooks are going to need some serious server strength on the other end of their 3g connections... and that's where Xeon comes in.
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2010-10-04
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But where there is a difference is in performance. As stated, an overclocked 1.5GHz (single core) Cortex A8 with a dedicated PowerVr GPU should be equivalent to the performance you can squeeze out of the Z600. But what does change is when you have Cortex A9 cores (these have the same battery draw at the same GHz as the A8's except they have a more performance = effecient). So lower-end A9's (1.2GHz) would be able to match the Z600 fairly easily, but when you have them pushed hard (2GHz) you are surpassing the Z600 and when you double-that to a dual-core ... you're leaps and bounds ahead of the Z600.
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2010-10-04
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Except, what will the ARM Netbooks run? Linux? Good luck selling that to the masses.
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2010-10-04
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2010-10-04
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For example, what would happen to the market if - instead of using a CPU for most all tasks - the new concept is using a small and fast, featureless CPU that ends up doing on-the-fly reconfiguration of a PLC or DSP to optimize it for whatever tasks being done.
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Well as far as the Z600 goes, it will not be useful in a smartphone just because it has lower battery consumption (the difference is anybody's guess) than your typical 1GhzA8 (eg Hummingbird) and the performance gained is only slightly higher than the Hummingbird (maybe the same if hummingbird is overclocked to 1.5GHz).
And what strengths does having the Z600 over the Hummingbird give you? Actually nothing, since Z600 is not x86 compatible (at least software-wise). Actually it disadvantages you since the Z600 is still larger, so either the device will be larger or the battery will be smaller compared to smartphones using A8 or A9 processors.
But on the tablet front it is a completely different scenario.
Why? Well the portability (or size) of both platforms in the larger shell is very close that it no longer matters. Next important thing is that the battery is much larger so the normal/idle battery life difference is again too small to consider, it now depends on which company can optimize the software best.
But where there is a difference is in performance. As stated, an overclocked 1.5GHz (single core) Cortex A8 with a dedicated PowerVr GPU should be equivalent to the performance you can squeeze out of the Z600. But what does change is when you have Cortex A9 cores (these have the same battery draw at the same GHz as the A8's except they have a more performance = effecient). So lower-end A9's (1.2GHz) would be able to match the Z600 fairly easily, but when you have them pushed hard (2GHz) you are surpassing the Z600 and when you double-that to a dual-core ... you're leaps and bounds ahead of the Z600.
What no-one knows right now is the battery life difference between the Z600 and a 2GHz-dualcore-A9?
But if Intel is to be successful in the tablet space it must either:
1) match the performance and battery life of said processors which is a difficult task (due to x86 constraints)
2)OR it must somehow convince Microsoft to port Windows (7 or its successor) to the Z600 (or its successor) and this is PROBABLY not going to happen (in fact you can forget about it)
3)OR Intel must be able to design a new Atom/core-i2(?) line which can provide more performance than the N450 (like an SU7300) at the same battery life of the N450 BUT have it in a small package where it can fit with a 6-cell battery into a tablet about the size of the iPad
4)OR A wealthy company must accomplish a tablet with the features of "bulletpoint 3" and it have a completely new overhauled skin over Win7 (so that it is finger and tablet friendly) and it must also become popular and attract other OEMs to do so ... so far only the ExoPC is heading in this direction but it isn't doing a terrific job of it. BTW this is the easiet way Intel could compete in the tablet industry but your regular OEMs (HP, Acer etc) are not interested/not offering one any time soon.
Last edited by Kangal; 2010-10-04 at 08:12.