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#21
Congratulations! I didn't bet on Cosmo Communicator, only on Fxtec Pro - haven't got a tracking number from them yet :-/ .

Please report whether Cosmo Communicator can boot Maemo Leste ;-)

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#22
Originally Posted by xelo View Post
Cosmo made the race this morning. Congratulations!

The device is really huge:

https://i.imgur.com/oVcApWz.jpg

Lenovo X250, Samsung S4 Mini, Apple iPhone SE, Motorola Moto E, PlanetComputers Cosmo Communicator, AA-Cell for scale (was out of bananas)
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#23
Originally Posted by Wolda View Post
Am I the first one here who has received Cosmo? The first impression is that it's quite polished and tuned Gemini, however, I haven't found a way how to get to a meaningful recovery-mode and do anything else than stock Android :-/
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#24
I'm currently compiling a list of good and bad things, I'm going to post this list, once I could test the device in the wild. I still need to wait for a new nano-sim.
 

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#25
As promised. some first thoughts and experiences

Cover display:
  • If an alarm goes off you cannot snooze or stop it from the cover display
  • If you open the cosmo when the alarm goes off, it asks you for your PIN first to unlock the phone, then it pops to the home-screen, and the
    alarm is still ringing in the background.

=> It's uneasy to stop / snooze an alarm if the device is closed.
If the device is open when the alarm goes off, you can stop / snooze it normally on the internal display.

See: https://imgur.com/a/RxiNAls as an example for the lock screen and the alarm blazing in the background.
  • The cover-display is laggy, entering a PIN to unlock the phone is a gruesome experience, as its animations are always 500ms to late.


Other oddities:
  • If you turn on the keyboard backlight the devices shows the "charging" icon.
  • Uneven lighting of keyboard and cover-display LEDs.
  • The device is full of google-software. The searchbar on the homescreen can not be removed.
  • When using the main screen, the device suddenly locks sometimes, and you need to enter your pin again.


Look an feel / Keyboard
The device feels really solid and typing on a real clicky keyboard again is a good thing. When using it in both hands, i can thumb-type on the keyboard, my girlfriend cannot.

Typing-speed.net results: Cosmo: 164 strokes/minute, Notebook: 244 strokes/minute, whilst cosmo was thumb-typing and notebook freestyle.


Music:
  • This device can really get loud. Listening to music on the inbuilt stereo speakers is possible, but the audio quality is meh. Just use high quality headphones. Always.
  • Cover Display can show the current played track when using a player like VLC, this is cool! Playback controls do also work, but are laggy.


Camera:
I took some shots with the Camera, as well as with the Cameras of an iPhone SE and an Olympus E500 see here:
https://imgur.com/a/ldEtLfs


Telephony:
Works, call quality is quite good. You can dial from the cover display and pickup calls. Nevertheless, the laggy display is unusable for dialling numbers, or selecting a contact from your address-book, especially if you have ~200 contacts in it. The order of the contacts is by first name, even if you change the order of the contacts in the Contacts-App.

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#26
^ all this is with Android?
I wonder how other OSs fare.
 

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#27
Still running on Android. Somehow the phone does not vibrate when a call is coming in, even when the "vibrate on call" setting is activated. It just makes a short "bzzt" vibration and that's all. When I'm calling someone and the called person picks up, the phone vibrates again, this was unusual for me at first, but I think it's a nice feature.

There has been the fist update for the cover-display which not now introduces landscape mode, but the display is still as stubborn as before. Also the alarm clock does not work and sometimes the display does even not react on touch (for instance to mute the microphone during a call, or to switch to loudspeaker). On the other hand the display is always on when a call is active (no proximity sensor) and I suddenly muted the microphone with my cheek....

The display is nice to see status updates, but is no real solution in order to operate the phone.

Currently I'm placing calls like this: Opening the device, entering my long pin, choosing the phone app and the dial and close the device again. I terminate the call with the outer displays keys.

The device is still very solid and fun to use. I discovered myself mostly thumb-typing which is a little bit hard as the device is huge, because when using it like a desktop I'm regularly hitting the screen with my fingers thus placing the cursor on an other position which results in text garbage.


If you are around at 36c3 in Leipzig we can meet and you can have a look for yourself.

EDIT: I wrote "not introduces". This was a typo. It should have been "now introduces" and some rather minor typo-fixes

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#28
I did not verify the contents of the following link, yet:

https://wuffs.org/blog/pulling-apart...emfota-updater

There seem to be MAJOR security issues with the OTA Updater of the cosmo.
and the content of the website makes me switch back to my S4-Mini with aokp, once I'm back at home.

I had a short glimpse at the mentioned OTA-Update for the Cover display.
(the website says, the CODI updater updates from here: http://fota.planetcom.co.uk/stm32fla...e_versions.txt which is only available via http, and the binaries which are flashed to the outer display are also only available by http). If i would like to persist malware on a cosmo, I'd chose the CODI subsystem.

I need to verify the URLs with wireshark once I'm back home.

Edit: This is the authors twitter thread for this issue: https://twitter.com/_Ninji/status/1201275091297931268

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Isn't there a problem (or held as a problem) with F(x)Tec Pro1 OTA updates too? A host provider which was caught of snooping or something but which it seems is back in business (and I believe which is now well monitored so can be trusted I think). N900 with Maemo Leste will be the winner in the end.
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#30
Today I've had the time to install iptables-mod-tee and kmod-ipt-tee on my router.

and forwarded all traffic to my notebook where a wireshark was running with:

Code:
iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -d 192.168.42.168 -j TEE --gateway 192.168.42.197
iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -s 192.168.42.168 -j TEE --gateway 192.168.42.197
By doing so, I could confirm with wireshark that the CoDI updater starts looking for updates here:
http://fota.planetcom.co.uk/stm32fla...e_versions.txt

Planet Computers has reacted for the "Digitime Issue" detected by ninji in the blog post I mentioned earlier. See: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/c...r#/updates/all Update from Jan 15, 2020 • 7:32AM

The OTA-Updater is going to be fixed by Digitime, at least they say so.

There are also going to be new updates for android and the CoDi. Let's see if they also fix the MITM-Issue on the CoDi Updater.
 

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